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Old 10-15-2008, 09:23 PM
 
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This is the main reason why there are so few Liberal Talk Shows.
I disagree. IMO, liberals can't talk about their views just like they can't stick with a name for very long (communist to socialist to liberal to progressive to... ) No one listens to it when it is available because there is no intellectual component to it. (Again, that's my experience of it.)
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Old 10-15-2008, 09:32 PM
 
Location: Charlotte,NC, US, North America, Earth, Alpha Quadrant,Milky Way Galaxy
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Well it seems when anyone talks about liberals or conservatives (in the media anyway) it's the far left variant of liberals or the ultra conservative conservatives that are the ones demonized or vilified. I don't think anyone really is to much interested in the centrist liberals or left leaning conservatives.

Anyway, it's all something for talking heads to pour gasoline on.
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Old 10-15-2008, 09:36 PM
 
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I disagree. IMO, liberals can't talk about their views just like they can't stick with a name for very long (communist to socialist to liberal to progressive to... ) No one listens to it when it is available because there is no intellectual component to it. (Again, that's my experience of it.)
I won't dignify your "name" remark with a response. It just shows how low some people will sink with their politics.

Lots of people listen to Liberal talk shows ... but corporations like Clear Channel will pull the plug on them when they believe the shows may affect outcome of an election, or when large Republican supporting advertisers refuse to buy commercial time due to the presence of Liberal Talk shows on the same radio station as the Conservative Talk shows.
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Old 10-15-2008, 10:00 PM
 
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I won't dignify your "name" remark with a response. It just shows how low some people will sink with their politics.
I felt my IQ drop a point reading this. You'll not dignify my observations of the left's name-changing, but you'll accuse something inappropriate?

You're now speaking from a credibility deficit.

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Lots of people listen to Liberal talk shows ... but corporations like Clear Channel will pull the plug on them when they believe the shows may affect outcome of an election, or when large Republican supporting advertisers refuse to buy commercial time due to the presence of Liberal Talk shows on the same radio station as the Conservative Talk shows.
If there was money in it, a left leaning company-- sponsored by Soros, for instance-- would hit the scene and clean up while Clear Channel was exiting the market. That's how competition works.

If you're suggesting that right leaning companies support leftist talk shows against the will of the owner/s, then you're proposing infringing on the free speech of the owner. How's that fair?
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Old 10-15-2008, 10:48 PM
 
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Webster's:
Main Entry: 1lib·er·al
Pronunciation: \ˈli-b(ə-)rəl\
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French, from Latin liberalis suitable for a freeman, generous, from liber free; perhaps akin to Old English lēodan to grow, Greek eleutheros free
Date: 14th century
1 a: of, relating to, or based on the liberal arts <liberal education> barchaic : of or befitting a man of free birth
2 a: marked by generosity : openhanded <a liberal giver> b: given or provided in a generous and openhanded way <a liberal meal> c: ample , full
3obsolete : lacking moral restraint : licentious
4: not literal or strict : loose <a liberal translation>
5: broad-minded ; especially : not bound by authoritarianism, orthodoxy, or traditional forms

Why are people so threatened? Just curious?
you bolded the wrong entry. most liberals are the least 'broad-minded' people one could ever have the misfortune to encounter.

how about number 3? it fits so much better and is higher up on the list

3: obsolete : lacking moral restraint : licentious
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Old 10-15-2008, 11:03 PM
 
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If you're suggesting that right leaning companies support leftist talk shows against the will of the owner/s, then you're proposing infringing on the free speech of the owner. How's that fair?
Why do "Conservatives" have such a difficult time with "Reading Comprehension"?
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Old 10-15-2008, 11:06 PM
 
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Why do "Conservatives" have such a difficult time with "Reading Comprehension"?
Hmm... passive aggression. I think you'd find communicating in the CA or other west coast forum much more comfortable.
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Old 10-16-2008, 08:39 AM
 
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I like radio talk shows. I've listened to them for 30 years, way before Rush and nationally syndicated radio shows came on the scene. I've listened to major urban talk shows, smaller town talk shows and syndicated talk shows.
Local talk shows are the best because they talk about local and national issues. Generally they reflect the politics of the community they broadcast from, but you do have a fair exchange of different views. The moderator relies on personal talent so his agenda is not political but more for ratings. Some are left, some are right, the best appear to be in the middle and strive to further discussion of the issues.
I don't like Rush so I'm not a ditto head. I also don't like Hannity. I do really like Bill Oreilly because he does make an effort to have guests on and takes more calls and plays devils advocate pretty well. I still laugh at people who hate him for being a "right winger".
I listened to Air America for awhile and was struck by just how bad it was. You had a guy from South Dakota, Shultz or Shwartz was his name, who was trying his best to be a mirror image clone of Rush. And all he did was take calls from whiners and bitter left wingers who did not nothing but recite partisan mantra. These people were even less objective and informed than Rush's listeners. No wonder Air America folded. Nobody likes to hear closed minded people complain and attack and offer no solutions.
This fairness doctrine does worry me. If they force a slob like Schultz onto the airwaves I won't listen to him and I'd hate to have somebody actually lose their spot to make space for him. But on the other hand, if they make MSNBC hire a Hannity ( fair is fair) maybe that would hurt them just as bad.
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Old 10-16-2008, 09:32 AM
 
Location: The #1 sunshine state, Arizona.
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Another reason the word "liberal" has become a "dirty word" is because of people like Rush Limbaugh.

Limbaugh repeats his "the liberals" message, in his demeaning, derogatory tone, over and over, during every single radio broadcast, to the point where his millions of radio listeners associate the term with horrible, evil people who cause all the problems in the country.

Basically ... it's "brainwashing".

It's very similar to what Hitler did with Jews. Hitler controlled the German airwaves, and he repeated his message over and over, that the Jews were the cause of all the problems in Germany.

Fortunately, Limbaugh is not an evil man, and he doesn't have either the political power or motives that Hitler had, but his message creates the same general atmosphere of vile hatred against a single group of people.

Many of Limbaugh's listeners are in the Bible Belt region, and they are not highly educated (mainly farmers, housewives, etc), and they are fairly easy to influence (i.e. gullible).

There are also many other Rush Limbaugh "wannabes" like Sean Hannity, Michael Savage, and many lesser known Conservative talk show hosts all over the country who help to reinforce Limbaugh's derogatory "the liberals" message.

It's really a shame that there are so few Progressive radio talk shows that can challenge the message, but that's because Conservative money controls the vast majority of radio airwaves throughout the U.S.
That is so funny about the brainwashing. We are all adults and we have options. The examples you use are extremes. Most people fall in the middle of the spectrum as opposed to extremes on either side.

I can remember the hearing the phrase "bleeding heart liberal" back in the 1970's this is before Limbaugh had a radio show.
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Old 10-16-2008, 09:38 AM
 
Location: NY
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Hardly.

Hollywood is home to some of the biggest and most vocal conservatives.

Hell, one of them became President.
AAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! Reagan started off in Hollywood as a Liberal. He saw the error of his ways and became a Republican. To say Hollywood has "some of the biggest and most vocal conservatives" is ludicrous! Do a little research!
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