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Old 08-15-2008, 06:51 PM
 
Location: Grand Rapids Metro
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Which incompetent "leader" is pushing your political leanings farther? Thinking of switching teams?
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Old 08-15-2008, 10:50 PM
 
Location: North Central Florida
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Repubs, Dems, two sides of the same coin, both are complicit in running the country into the dirt......I'm writing myself in.
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Old 08-16-2008, 12:52 PM
 
Location: FLINT (yeah you read that right!), MI
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Neither candidate is going to do any of the things they "promise" they are going to do anyway.
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Old 08-17-2008, 04:30 AM
 
Location: SE Michigan
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People need to understand that the President is nothing more then a Figure Head, the ones that need to be cleared out are the OLD Members of the Congress and the Senate, we need a Major Cleaning of these two branchs of Goverment and until we get the Career Politicians out, it will NEVER CHANGE for the Better. These are the people who keep us from drilling for Oil in Our Own Country, They are the ones who make Laws to let Big Business move their operations to China and take jobs away from Americans. Then sell their products back to Americans, These are the same people who say they are for the Troops, yet they add Pork to the Bills that Fund Our Troops, and in turn take Money away from the Troops for their Pork Project back in their Home State. Look at Walter Reed Hosiptal Our Kids are getting ripped apart and when they come home they get below standard Medical from a Country they have given their all for So all the FAT CATS in Washington DC need to get a Wake up Call from the AMERICAN PEOPLE, so when you go Vote this November, Think before you Vote for that Old Timer who has been there for Years, Give them a swift kick to the crub If we are in need of CHANGE then this is where we need it, Cause I mean look at all those Democrats who said Elect "Me and I will vote to bring the Troops Home" Boy if they didn't drop the ball on that one, huh?
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Old 08-17-2008, 07:39 AM
 
Location: Lower Michigan
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If you have never went to a township board meeting or a city meeting is probably the same thing; go to one it may be an eye opening experience. I went to one where they think they the council knows what is best for the township even though the township voted down a millage request by 178 votes. Now its going to be back on the ballot in Nov..I hope they realize how they got in their seats and when the time comes why they lose them. I honestly think if people seen some of the elected officials at the township levels they surely wouldn't be elected again. There was a recall election earlier this year for the supervisor; he won by one vote and you don't see that back on the ballot. Hmmm. I know the majority of the board if not all is democrats. They should be called socialists or better yet communists for not going with the vote!

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Old 08-17-2008, 09:57 AM
 
Location: Grand Rapids Metro
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If you have never went to a township board meeting or a city meeting is probably the same thing; go to one it may be an eye opening experience. I went to one where they think they the council knows what is best for the township even though the township voted down a millage request by 178 votes. Now its going to be back on the ballot in Nov..I hope they realize how they got in their seats and when the time comes why they lose them. I honestly think if people seen some of the elected officials at the township levels they surely wouldn't be elected again. There was a recall election earlier this year for the supervisor; he won by one vote and you don't see that back on the ballot. Hmmm. I know the majority of the board if not all is democrats. They should be called socialists or better yet communists for not going with the vote!
Actually, that's more like fascism.

Me personally, Bush and his cronies (and the Republicans in Congress) and the idiots on Fox News have me seriously considering switching parties this year to Democrat. It seems like every time a Republican, whether it be nationally or locally, opens his/her mouth lately, I just cringe at what they are saying. I no longer feel like I relate to any of their early 1900's outlook on the world.

But as much as I think Granholm has failed to grasp the seriousness of Michigan's issues, and her lack of leadership regarding kicking Kwame out, it seems like it's more of a failure of her own personal leadership skills and not her political leanings. In other words, she wouldn't keep me from voting Democrat.
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Old 08-17-2008, 11:00 AM
 
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Switching sides won't help. The parties (and partisan press) ARE the problem. Since neither has a clue, it's important to keep the them both at equal strength and preoccupied with minutia until a viable third party comes along. Or maybe someday the people will finally realize they are both just giant fund-raising and marketing organizations and refuse to identify with either one.
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Old 08-17-2008, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Lower Michigan
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Switching sides won't help. The parties (and partisan press) ARE the problem. Since neither has a clue, it's important to keep the them both at equal strength and preoccupied with minutia until a viable third party comes along. Or maybe someday the people will finally realize they are both just giant fund-raising and marketing organizations and refuse to identify with either one.
I'll agree with that. They both just blame one another and nothing really ever gets done. Promise you this and that and always ends up a bunch of BS.
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Old 08-17-2008, 08:44 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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Default Print some flyers

I made this flyer last night. Print some copies and post them around.

I can make any changes if needed.
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Old 08-17-2008, 08:46 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma(formerly SoCalif) Originally Mich,
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