Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
Kevin McCarthy will surely replace Pelosi as Speaker. He issued a statement in support of Ukraine.
It would be hard to withdraw support, since Ukraine is showing such progress.
These DOD news releases keep tabs on the overall total which is now $18.9 BILLION. And when Senator Rand Paul asked to include some accountability and audit steps, democrats said no. We have little idea where most of this funding ends up. No audit of Afghanistan or Iraq ended well but this lack of accounting will look poorly for democrats.
This number has no meaning in a vacuum.
The US spent $73 billion in military aid to Afghanistan.
Let's compare the ROI on Ukraine vs Afghanistan.
And before you decide to blame Biden for Afghanistan, realize $71 billion was already spent before he even became president.
Last I looked this all passed with overwhelming Bi-Partisan support.
That's right. And the Democrats won't get hurt over this. No matter where the money and weapons go. No responsibility and no accountability. All is well.
Last edited by BusinessManIT; 11-07-2022 at 11:00 AM..
Nearly $20 billion has been given so far to Ukraine.
We’re giving billions to Ukraine, with a B. Billions. ...........
The US budget is $6,000 billion.
20 billion won't matter. As was done with Germany, Japan, and South Korea, trading partners will be made with a secure Ukraine. If we get lucky, Ukraine will pay for their own reconstruction. But it won't matter. The money spent to Ukraine fighting Russia will destroy Russia. That's the whole point.
From this year forward there will always be a good reason to have anti-aircraft defenses in Ukraine. If Russia has lost anything close to the 225 fighters Ukraine claims to have shot down, then Russia is out of the air superiority business for good.
The US budget is $6,000 billion.
20 billion won't matter. As was done with Germany, Japan, and South Korea, trading partners will be made with a secure Ukraine. If we get lucky, Ukraine will pay for their own reconstruction. But it won't matter. The money spent to Ukraine fighting Russia will destroy Russia. That's the whole point.
From this year forward there will always be a good reason to have anti-aircraft defenses in Ukraine. If Russia has lost anything close to the 225 fighters Ukraine claims to have shot down, then Russia is out of the air superiority business for good.
Regardless of who says what about numbers, the Russians inability to assert air domination and use that to crush Ukrainian ground forces is already duly noted.
The US budget is $6,000 billion.
20 billion won't matter. As was done with Germany, Japan, and South Korea, trading partners will be made with a secure Ukraine. If we get lucky, Ukraine will pay for their own reconstruction. But it won't matter. The money spent to Ukraine fighting Russia will destroy Russia. That's the whole point.
From this year forward there will always be a good reason to have anti-aircraft defenses in Ukraine. If Russia has lost anything close to the 225 fighters Ukraine claims to have shot down, then Russia is out of the air superiority business for good.
Let's don't look at the raw $$ spent as if that was the net cost of our involvement. Think of the weapons testing experience and combat tactics feedback we've gotten. Weapons and tactics are often pretty theoretical. You project a need for a certain type of system that you think plugs a hole in your war fighting readiness picture but you never really know until you fight with those weapons. We have sure gotten some case studies out of this war. Been lotsa learnin' done. Whatever lessons I can think of now, the actual pros have learned 100x that.
Drones drones drones. Every soldier is a light drone operator. I saw a Ukrainian nerd kid at Bakhmut operating a hobbyist's drone and flying it from his phone using an internet interface with the subscription paid for by his girlfriend. He'd low crawl up to within 100 yds of the front lines, lay in some bushes, launch the little drone and use it to target Russian positions for artillery strikes. Knowledge is power. Drones provide knowledge. Excalibur artillery shells provide the power.
And then there's the whole heavy armor debate. Starting to look like main battle tanks may be obsolete if every infantry squad has an ATGM or ten. Suppress infantry within 2k of your armor? Lots of air power to do that and of course MANPADs make that difficult.
Where are we going now? Precision artillery coupled with drone target spotting? Nullified armor and air power due to cheap intelligent rocket systems? Feels like a high tech WWI stalemate.
The US budget is $6,000 billion.
20 billion won't matter. As was done with Germany, Japan, and South Korea, trading partners will be made with a secure Ukraine. If we get lucky, Ukraine will pay for their own reconstruction. But it won't matter. The money spent to Ukraine fighting Russia will destroy Russia. That's the whole point.
From this year forward there will always be a good reason to have anti-aircraft defenses in Ukraine. If Russia has lost anything close to the 225 fighters Ukraine claims to have shot down, then Russia is out of the air superiority business for good.
Out of which $1.4 trillion is deficit spending (as in money we don't have).
And here is another number for you - $31 trillion. Do you know what that one is?
Ukraine serves as a cautionary tale to China should they decide to attack Taiwan.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.