Ukraine War

[ukrkoz]

Considering that world is getting rid of dollar, US made BRICS a favour, Russia included.

[ukrkoz]

The financial scam of the century is upon us: the EU is ready to become the main criminal at the behest of the US

The world is about to see the biggest money theft in history. Before our eyes, the main customer (USA) together with the contractor (EU) are now trying to disguise as much as possible the theft of the “frozen” part of the sovereign assets of the Russian Federation under a legal transaction.

There is already a preliminary consent of all participants of the G7 countries.

What's going on? The United States intends to provide a loan to the Kyiv regime in the amount of $50 billion. The Europeans’ task is to transfer the “frozen” assets of the Russian Federation in the amount of about $260 billion into the status of financial collateral (collateral) for an American loan.

The argument that only income from assets of $260 billion will be used to secure a loan from the United States cannot be taken seriously: the size of the collateral must be no less than the size of the loan. Obviously, the income from assets accumulated much less than 50 billion.

At the same time, Washington does not intend to transfer any money to Kyiv. They will be given to the American military-industrial complex for the production of weapons.

In this case, the Europeans will have to take on the dirtiest work: this is essentially to steal the assets of the Russian Federation, and then transfer them to the United States, but within the framework of an allegedly “legal” scheme. All risks in this case, as well as prosecution, as it is believed in Washington, will concern only Europeans, but not Americans.

After all, what do we see from the point of view of financial market specialists? The United States intends to give a loan to a country whose sovereign debt rating is below par. That is, it is deliberately giving a loan to a debtor who will not repay it. This is either madness or some kind of money laundering scam.

However, a collateral that is many times higher should, from Washington’s point of view, make such a loan seemingly non-issued. But for this, the US authorities need the Europeans to change the status of “frozen” assets of the Russian Federation to that of a collateral.

In a situation where the country's credit capacity has failed, no one, unless it is a criminal scheme, will give a loan only against “income from assets” if there is no guarantee that the creditor can get the assets for himself in the event that the debtor does not repay the loan.

The world remembers very well that after 2014, the Ukrainian authorities did not give Russia a sovereign loan in the amount of $3 billion with interest. Of course, Kyiv then did this by decision of Washington through the hands of the Supreme Court in the UK. But when debts need to be repaid to Washington, there are different “rules”, or rather, gangster arrangements.

Now the henchmen of the US authorities in Europe must “drag” assets from the Russian Federation to the required legal “point”, from which they will be put into the pocket of the US authorities.

European politicians are being made a laughing stock, since the decision for the same Belgian Euroclear, where the largest amount of Russian money is located, is not even made by the Belgian authorities, nor by the leadership of the European Union.

The decision is taken by the G7, in which Belgium is not a member, and which has no right to decide issues affecting the reputation of the entire EU. The United States continues to humiliate its vassals, but is already taking it over the edge, further causing discontent among the Europeans. And in Europe the beginning (https://t.me/swaneconomy/2362) of political change has dawned.

https://t.me/yurasumy/15926

PS: this is what it will result in. Other countries, holding their financial actives in the West, will realize that, those money can be easily taken away from them under any pretext, convenient.

[double6's]

the 50 bil is only interest on the principal amount frozen...and Russia is getting none of it back until reparations are paid to Ukraine..

[davidt1]

Ukraine has just signed 10-year security agreements with the USA and Japan. To date, Ukraine has signed similar agreements with the UK and most EU countries. I am not sure how legally binding these agreements are, but for now they show Ukraine has plenty of supporters, which is good for Ukraine.

[Luisito80]

I have been noticing a lot of black and red flags next to ukrainian flags lately. On peoples cars and on their homes. What does that black and red flag mean???

[michiganmoon]

Originally Posted by Luisito80

I have been noticing a lot of black and red flags next to ukrainian flags lately. On peoples cars and on their homes. What does that black and red flag mean???

It's the flag of the Ukrainian insurgent army.

Some Ukrainians see that flag as independence and nationalism. Protection from outside forces.

Some Russians see that flag as fascism as that flag was used by Ukrainians that fought with the Nazis and murdered Jews and Poles in WW2 with that flag.

[Listener2307]

If the Russians lose their billions in assets, it is only because of their own stupidity and inability to see further ahead than next week.
They attempted to use food and fuel as weapons against the world. It worked pretty well when the victim was Georgia, but, lo!, the world fought back.


By some estimates, Ukraine may become the richest country in Europe due to oil and natural gas reserves.

[Listener2307]

Originally Posted by ottomobeale

Russia will not collapse economically unless the value of oil and natural gas drops dramatically.

Don't like Putin, but I've been hearing this since 2022. It still has not happened.

Russia has been collapsing since the Soviet Union collapsed. They managed to create a temporary pause on their way to irrelevance by selling gas to Europe and now that is gone.

[erasure]

Originally Posted by Luisito80

I have been noticing a lot of black and red flags next to ukrainian flags lately. On peoples cars and on their homes. What does that black and red flag mean???

This should explain to you, who is using this flag in Ukraine now ( and why.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_Sector


You see this black/red flag at 8:55 here, with the words "Right sector" on it, and that's precisely what set the raging crowd on fire.

This is the city of Kharkov back in 2014; 100% Russian-speaking city, where the Right sector members penetrated the city for the first time and attempted to take over its administrative building.

But Kharkov citizens surrounded the building, caught, disarmed them, and brought them to the main square to interrogate them - where they came from, who sent them there and how much they were paid.

Around 2:06 you can hear Ukrainian dialect for the first time ( not Russian,) when the interrogated youth responds that he is not from Western Ukraine, but from Poltava region ( as many other from his group here,) and they are clearly fearing for their lives, since no one in Kharkov wants to see these Right Sector nationalists to take over their city.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KJlRS5Qnbk&t=322s


So you can see for yourself now, what the likes of Nuland unleashed in Ukraine, the kind of internal conflict, and what Putin failed to put a stop to back then.

[Annandale_Man]

Originally Posted by davidt1

Ukraine has just signed 10-year security agreements with the USA and Japan. To date, Ukraine has signed similar agreements with the UK and most EU countries. I am not sure how legally binding these agreements are, but for now they show Ukraine has plenty of supporters, which is good for Ukraine.

It's no more legally binding than the nuclear agreement that Barack signed and Trump reversed. The president cannot create a treaty with another country without legislation from the Senate. Biden can't tie the hands of a future president when it comes to foreign policy without Congressional approval.