If there's a massive Red wave in Nov '22, do they let Biden stay? (enemies, generations)

[bobbythegreat]

They aren't typically as corrupt as Pelosi and the Democrats, so they probably don't stoop to the lows she did filing frivolous impeachment charges......but if they did, it would be completely justified.

[RiotAct41]

of course. Dems will just double down on the stupid.

[diddlydudette]

The left can control Biden and make him do things because he stays confused but they can't control Kamalllla.

And it's not "if' there will be a red wave, there will definitely be a red wave. It will be glorious.

[2nd trick op]

Hp[efully, if the Democratic Party implodes, their moderate center, including the less-flagrant one-issue voters, will coalesce quietly and responsibly.

But the radical hijackers (I'll cite Omar,Talib, and AOC as examples) should have nowhere left to go except the sump filled with their own kind.

[markg91359]

Originally Posted by beach43ofus

Let's say the Republicans retake the House AND Senate, & do very well in Governors races, AG's, ect..

Will Biden's handlers/puppetmasters allow him to remain in office?

Or, do they force him to step down due to "medical reasons" or some other contrived excuse?

Kamala's polling 1% higher than Joe right now.

I say watch the msm closely to see which one they start propping up with positive press. That will be the key.

Right now, they are trying to prop up Joe with positive economic news on employment, wages, & labor participation, but he's still behind Kamala. How long until they quit on Joe?

Joe's ratings are similar to the ratings that both Bill Clinton and Barack Obama had at this point in their presidency. The economy is in bad shape because of coronavirus problems. People are frustrated and want coronavirus and inflation both to end. My prediction is inflation will fall to about 4% in 2022 and as treatments for Covid 19 are distributed throughout this country fear of the disease will lessen.

The GOP will capture Congress in 2022. When that happens, the moderate elements in this country will find Biden more appealing. If the Supreme Court strikes down abortion rights this spring that will be further impetus to some to support Biden in 2024. The right also hurts itself through its extremism. Chants like "Let's go Brandon" do not appeal to average people in this country. They instead remind people of January 6th.

Biden is down in the polls. He is far from out.

[irishcopper]

Originally Posted by markg91359

Joe's ratings are similar to the ratings that both Bill Clinton and Barack Obama had at this point in their presidency. The economy is in bad shape because of coronavirus problems. People are frustrated and want coronavirus and inflation both to end. My prediction is inflation will fall to about 4% in 2022 and as treatments for Covid 19 are distributed throughout this country fear of the disease will lessen.

The GOP will capture Congress in 2022. When that happens, the moderate elements in this country will find Biden more appealing. If the Supreme Court strikes down abortion rights this spring that will be further impetus to some to support Biden in 2024. The right also hurts itself through its extremism. Chants like "Let's go Brandon" do not appeal to average people in this country. They instead remind people of January 6th.

Biden is down in the polls. He is far from out.

I'm a moderate independent libertarian. I find absolutely nothing appealing about President Biden. His administration is responsible for the most disgraceful military evacuation and retreat in U.S. history. The U.S. military's hasty retreat created a void in Kabul resulting in chaos that led to the murders of 13 fine young Americans and several hundred Afghan civilians and stranded hundreds of U.S. citizens, legal permanent residents and special immigrant visas holders who became de facto hostages of the Taliban. Biden and DHS Secretary Mayorkas refusal to secure the Southern border and orders to the Border Patrol and Customs and Border Protection to parole and admit thousands of indigent migrants is a flagrant violation of 8 U.S.C. Aliens and Nationality Act. Then there is Biden's support of the Build Back America boondoggle that if passed is estimated to add $365 billion to the national debt over the next ten years. I could go on but what's the point?

Chants of "Let's go Brandon!" may remind some of January 6th but whenever I see Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, Sandy Ocasio-Cortez, Maxine Waters, Bernie Sanders, Rashida Tlaib, Ayanna Presley, Ilhan Omar, Elizabeth Warren, Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi, Steve Cohen, Pramila Jayapal and other progressive members of the Democratic Party I think of how they either openly supported the dozens of rioters that waged mayhem in U.S. cities in 2020 or said very little to condemn them. I'll never vote for another Democrat for President, the House of Representatives or the U.S. Senate.

[beach43ofus]

Originally Posted by 2nd trick op

There is no need for Republicans and/or Libertarians to initiate any action. Let the Democrats' clown car drive itself over a cliff.

Agreed, my OP asked if the Dems will remove Joe, if a Red wave occurs.

Trying to think that through from a Dem perspective is what I'm trying to do.

I think the Dem party could get better results in 2024, if Joe was a bad memory by then.

Using Kamala instead as theri puppet, could shore up the support from women, & blacks.

The Dem party has been losing blacks for the last 2 election cycles...& hispanics.

It would be esy to come up with a health related excuse to give Joe the hook.

I do agree with you though, the Republicans should take the high road, take no action, and just be an observer of the Democrat party's turmoil.

If the Pubs do so, I think they'll gain some Indy's and Moderate Dem votes....grow their tent.

[beach43ofus]

Originally Posted by irishcopper

I'm a moderate independent libertarian. I find absolutely nothing appealing about President Biden. His administration is responsible for the most disgraceful military evacuation and retreat in U.S. history. The U.S. military's hasty retreat created a void in Kabul resulting in chaos that led to the murders of 13 fine young Americans and several hundred Afghan civilians and stranded hundreds of U.S. citizens, legal permanent residents and special immigrant visas holders who became de facto hostages of the Taliban. Biden and DHS Secretary Mayorkas refusal to secure the Southern border and orders to the Border Patrol and Customs and Border Protection to parole and admit thousands of indigent migrants is a flagrant violation of 8 U.S.C. Aliens and Nationality Act. Then there is Biden's support of the Build Back America boondoggle that if passed is estimated to add $365 billion to the national debt over the next ten years. I could go on but what's the point?

Chants of "Let's go Brandon!" may remind some of January 6th but whenever I see Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, Sandy Ocasio-Cortez, Maxine Waters, Bernie Sanders, Rashida Tlaib, Ayanna Presley, Elizabeth Warren, Steve Cohen, Pramila Jayapal and other progressive members of the Democratic Party I think of how they openly supported the dozens of riots in U.S. cities or said very little to condemn them. I'll never vote for another Democrat for President, the House of Representatives or the U.S. Senate.

My fear is that the Republicans will somehow blow it, with voters like yourself. Every time the Pubs have a chance to sway some Indy's & Mod Dems, they manage screw it up.

[foodyum]

Originally Posted by irishcopper

I'm a moderate independent libertarian. I find absolutely nothing appealing about President Biden. His administration is responsible for the most disgraceful military evacuation and retreat in U.S. history. The U.S. military's hasty retreat created a void in Kabul resulting in chaos that led to the murders of 13 fine young Americans and several hundred Afghan civilians and stranded hundreds of U.S. citizens, legal permanent residents and special immigrant visas holders who became de facto hostages of the Taliban. Biden and DHS Secretary Mayorkas refusal to secure the Southern border and orders to the Border Patrol and Customs and Border Protection to parole and admit thousands of indigent migrants is a flagrant violation of 8 U.S.C. Aliens and Nationality Act. Then there is Biden's support of the Build Back America boondoggle that if passed is estimated to add $365 billion to the national debt over the next ten years. I could go on but what's the point?

Chants of "Let's go Brandon!" may remind some of January 6th but whenever I see Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, Sandy Ocasio-Cortez, Maxine Waters, Bernie Sanders, Rashida Tlaib, Ayanna Presley, Elizabeth Warren, Steve Cohen, Pramila Jayapal and other progressive members of the Democratic Party I think of how they openly supported the dozens of riots in U.S. cities in 2020 or said very little to condemn them. I'll never vote for another Democrat for President, the House of Representatives or the U.S. Senate.

Your take on things, although certainly valid, represent just a minor minor minor percent of the voting public.
The key is the younger voters. Few post here but they hold the future.
Want to know how they think- go on reddit.
Most don't care about Afghanistan, border issues are of medium importance,
This may come as surprise, but they are not turned off as much as you by the progressive members.
They care a whole lot about the national debt
They care a whole lot about the environment
They care a whole lot about healthcare
They care a whole lot about pro choice

[trobesmom]

Yes, he will stay. If not, there will be Harris. Pick your poison, lol.