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Old 07-15-2021, 02:41 PM
 
Location: Juneau, AK + Puna, HI
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I'm quite happy about this change of direction with our nation's largest forest:

"It is with great joy that we write to share that this morning, the Secretary of the United States Department of Agriculture announced that the Forest Service and USDA will initiate a rulemaking that proposes to restore 2001 Roadless Rule protections on the Tongass!

..And they didn’t stop there! The USDA announced a comprehensive new Southeast Alaska Sustainability Strategy, which involves four major policy changes, including the roadless announcement. In addition:

They will end large-scale old-growth timber logging on the Tongass, including currently planned contracts, and allow old-growth logging only for cultural uses, and for micro- and small- sales that serve community needs!
They will work with their sister agencies to invest an additional $25 million in supporting local, sustainable economic development initiatives like the Hoonah Native Forest Partnership, Keex’ Kwaan Community Forest Partnership, the Sustainable Southeast Partnership, and the Indigenous Guardians Network!
They will prioritize a renewed commitment to their engagement with Tribes, and to their trust responsibilities, including with regards to meaningful consultation, and more co-management!
This announcement marks the beginning of the end of the fight of many decades — a fight for place, community, and a vision of the Tongass that is bigger, richer, and more vivid than just clearcutting our old-growth forests to ship them off to the highest bidder. The announcement today goes far beyond Roadless, and even beyond old-growth logging, to change the way the Forest Service will guide the future of the Tongass National Forest, and our region. It’s the opportunity to chart a new, long-sought course for the economic future of our region, and it’s the opportunity of a lifetime.

The effort to end large-scale old-growth logging, and to keep the national Roadless Rule in place on the Tongass was your fight, and this announcement is your win. We hope you’re celebrating!

We celebrate and thank the many Tribal leaders and partners whose vision and dedicated hard work over many years pushed the administration to finally take decisive action to protect our shared home. Thank you, Gunalchéesh, Háw'aa, Nt'oyaxsn for your great leadership, mentorship, and heart."
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Old 07-15-2021, 04:34 PM
 
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Thank goodness. Now I can sleep at night
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First world "problem". Do not care.
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Old 07-15-2021, 04:59 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Now that grotesque made-up "monster" in the AM/PM stores can get all the hot dogs and soda he wants.

Freedom!
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Old 07-15-2021, 05:31 PM
 
Location: West Virginia
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Twenty years later the forest will be old and crowded with dead fall. Once it catches fire there will be no roads in to stop the fire. I love the woods and am no proponent of clear cutting however it is a waste of resource to not harvest what is environmentally sensible.

As far as logging roads go wildlife uses them such as wolf, moose, bears etc.
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Old 07-15-2021, 06:33 PM
 
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Nothing dooms a resource like govt management of it.
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Old 07-15-2021, 08:17 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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It didn't take long for the Idiot in the Oval to crap on the people of a state that voted against him. He has been using the power of his office to punish his political opponents from the very day he took office. Pathetic, vindictive old fool has no business holding any public office, let alone the presidency.
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Old 07-15-2021, 08:52 PM
 
Location: Juneau, AK + Puna, HI
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Originally Posted by lookingaround12345 View Post
Twenty years later the forest will be old and crowded with dead fall. Once it catches fire there will be no roads in to stop the fire. I love the woods and am no proponent of clear cutting however it is a waste of resource to not harvest what is environmentally sensible.

As far as logging roads go wildlife uses them such as wolf, moose, bears etc.
Well, there aren't forest fires in the Tongass, at least not yet, because it's wet year 'round. There is no dry season here.

And, FWIW, old growth forests are less susceptible to fire. 20 years won't make much difference though.
There will remain some logging, just not old growth and no clear cuts.

What's really wasteful is the government subsidizing the harvesting of old growth timber. That's been the history of the Tongass.
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Old 07-15-2021, 08:55 PM
 
Location: Juneau, AK + Puna, HI
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Nothing dooms a resource like govt management of it.
Precisely. The government has been "managing" the Tongass by subsidizing the logging industry for many decades.
Essentially, it's been a government give away to China lately.

https://cftr.org/2020/05/u-s-taxpaye...china-economy/
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Old 07-15-2021, 08:56 PM
 
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Precisely. The government has been "managing" the Tongass by subsidizing the logging industry for many decades.
Essentially, it's been a government give away to China lately.

https://cftr.org/2020/05/u-s-taxpaye...china-economy/
uh hu, but its all better now
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