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Old 06-21-2021, 12:10 PM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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Well, I do not know the details and I really do not care. The suggestion that the opportunity to play professional sports is more important than the commitment that he made to serve his country is unprincipled and beneath Senator Rubio. He should be ashamed to even offer such a suggestion.

Now if the guy can negotiate something with the Navy the way that Robinson did, fine. That was OK. But setting the precedent that entertainment celebrities get a free pass from their public service obligations in order to go play games for pay sets a terrible precedent, it is wrong, and it is a profoundly bad idea.
Agreed, if this is deemed a common enough issue - the service academies should come up with a standard procedure for student athletes that get drafted.

"For the good of the service" already exists. There was a husband/wife in the Army that won the lottery several years ago. They were separated by the Army "for the good of the service". Seems like that could apply here, should Naval leadership feel that way.
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Old 06-21-2021, 01:37 PM
 
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Since the Sec Nav already made a decision on the matter, I think it would be bad to change it now.

This was debated in another forum and I am solidly of the opinion that it's up to the Navy to decide how best to use them. If that means using them for Navy PR or serving out their duty on a submarine then so be it. Military services have a long history of using athletes and celebrities in various differing roles like USO, selling war bonds, recruitment etc.

I have a great picture of my mothers uncle with Jimmy Stewart somewhere at a USO thing and he was front-line infantry and saw one heckuva lot of combat.
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Old 06-21-2021, 01:39 PM
 
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Rubio sit down and shut up
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Old 06-21-2021, 01:42 PM
 
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What if he gets injured. The taxpayers are out money, the Navy an officer and cadet applicant a spot.

The academies are not 'a' college. They are preperation for a full fledged military career. Most in the military experience or get an assignement they don't want. Just the pres intervene on their behalf as well.
what if he gets injured at a traffic stop?

the “what ifs” can go anywhere you went them to..

what if he doesn’t get injured, becomes an NFL star and creates a ton of buzz for the Naval Academy?
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Old 06-21-2021, 02:00 PM
 
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IMHO, he should be allowed to play professionally but repay his "tuition" to the US Navy and commit to the Naval Reserve for 5 years during non-football months.

Joe Cardona of the Patriots serves 2 days a week in the Reserve while being the long-snapper.
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Old 06-21-2021, 02:02 PM
 
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Let the military forces own a team. Problem solved.
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Old 06-21-2021, 02:05 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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A professional athlete can suffer a career destroying injury - which may also void his military duty.
Best he perform his military duties FIRST - then consider his options in the private sector.
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BUT since sports entertainment is part of the propaganda ministry, no doubt the "management" will see fit to release him to distract the muggles.

Some "animals" are more equal than others...
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Old 06-21-2021, 02:23 PM
 
Location: Elysium
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Since the Sec Nav already made a decision on the matter, I think it would be bad to change it now.

This was debated in another forum and I am solidly of the opinion that it's up to the Navy to decide how best to use them. If that means using them for Navy PR or serving out their duty on a submarine then so be it. Military services have a long history of using athletes and celebrities in various differing roles like USO, selling war bonds, recruitment etc.

I have a great picture of my mothers uncle with Jimmy Stewart somewhere at a USO thing and he was front-line infantry and saw one heckuva lot of combat.
A B-24 squadron commander with 20 combat missions over Europe
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Old 06-21-2021, 03:26 PM
 
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what if he gets injured at a traffic stop?

the “what ifs” can go anywhere you went them to..

what if he doesn’t get injured, becomes an NFL star and creates a ton of buzz for the Naval Academy?
The bulk of the question is basically saying 'what if' the cadet/graduate can't play football after his completing his military obligations which is why many desire he play football now.

An academy graduate already created a buzz decades ago. Roger Staubach Dallas Cowboys

https://www.army.mil/article/157462/...ar_experiences
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Old 06-21-2021, 04:04 PM
 
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A B-24 squadron commander with 20 combat missions over Europe
Yeah, others the military pulled back because they didn't want a big PR boon for the enemy if they killed someone really famous.

Charles Lindberg was one such figure. Lots of interesting stories out there.
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