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Old 06-04-2021, 07:50 AM
 
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The term 'neocon' is likely 'fluid', that is, it likely means whatever the speaker wants it to mean, & has no fixed shape while easily yielding to external pressures.

Even if a term is fluid, it often still has a correct meaning.

Fascism is a very fluid word. Even so, we can properly look to Benito Mussolini for the correct definition. He invented and defined the term, and practiced his conception of in Italy from 1922 to 1943.

(Strictly speaking, Hitler was not a Fascist, but a National Socialist. Franco was no Fascist, but a Falangist.)

Likewise, we can properly look to Irving Kristol for the correct definition of Neoconservativism. He is the father of that ideology.
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Old 06-04-2021, 10:22 AM
 
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Between the conservatives' inability to formulate a consistent definition of the term, and the Lefties' desire to instantly demonize anything they perceive as a threat, this thread should make for some interesting reading; Please lead on, (or lead off).
The thing is, neo conservatives think they are the true conservatives, and the Constitutional conservatives think they are. So you will never get just one answer.

A few decades ago, neocons were disaffected Democrats, who were pro national defense, religious, oppose abortion on demand, respected the Constitution and loved the nation. They disagreed with the Democratic Party's steady slide into antisemitism, and the policies of the socialist left, so neocons jumped parties.

Neocons love big government solutions, seek US intervention into the affairs of other nations. They also seem to want to be all things to all people, and don't like confrontations, and tend to be wishy washy on Constitutional principles like immigration, deficit spending, expanding the size and function of the federal government, etc... This is why neocons in Congress often get rolled by the Democrats, they'd rather not stand on principles, so they give the Democrats 75% of what they want, while only getting 25% of what the neocons want, even when they are in the majority.

The next person will express some disagreements with my views, but that's how it goes. Even Democrats disagree on what their Party stands for, the direction the country should take, and the agenda they should be pushing thru legislation.
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