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Old 05-30-2021, 11:39 PM
 
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I think people are focusing on the classes a bit much too. For example, Latin is taught at an early age and throughout grade school into high school to prepare for and as part of specific subjects. Greek is primarily only taught for the purpose of math and isn't focused on nearly as much. A typical high school graduate (in the US) has a much better understanding of Latin than Greek even though they would not be able to actually speak either effectively.

It's not so much that you take a formal class, but it's something you spend a lot of time learning in school. It's not a specific requirement, but is assumed if you graduate high school.
What are you smoking?

A typical high school graduate in the US has zero formal knowledge of Latin or Greek.
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Old 05-30-2021, 11:40 PM
 
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I think people are focusing on the classes a bit much too. For example, Latin is taught at an early age and throughout grade school into high school to prepare for and as part of specific subjects. Greek is primarily only taught for the purpose of math and isn't focused on nearly as much. A typical high school graduate (in the US) has a much better understanding of Latin than Greek even though they would not be able to actually speak either effectively.

It's not so much that you take a formal class, but it's something you spend a lot of time learning in school. It's not a specific requirement, but is assumed if you graduate high school.
This is my point. The portions of these languages that you are need are learned during the normal course study. If this was required then Greek and Latin would need to be a requirement at the Middle School level prior to basic Biology and life science courses.
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Old 05-30-2021, 11:41 PM
 
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What are you smoking?

A typical high school graduate in the US has zero formal knowledge of Latin or Greek.
The poster you quoted said exactly that... you don't take a formal class. You learn primarily Latin throughout grade school and high school.
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Old 05-30-2021, 11:42 PM
 
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What are you smoking?

A typical high school graduate in the US has zero formal knowledge of Latin or Greek.
Actually they have more than you might realize. If you understand your own anatomy then your are using these languages. If you have taken a biology class then you have used these languages, on and on.

Did you do any Cardio today?
Any Exercise?
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Old 05-30-2021, 11:43 PM
 
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This is my point. The portions of these languages that you are need are learned during the normal course study. If this was required then Greek and Latin would need to be a requirement at the Middle School level prior to basic Biology and life science courses.
By the time you take those sciences, you already have a good understanding of Latin... just not through a formal class. Grade school assumes that if you pass a grade you are prepared for the next grade... thus having all the prerequisites whether it be foundational math, english, latin, etc.
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Old 05-30-2021, 11:46 PM
 
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By the time you take those sciences, you already have a good understanding of Latin... just not through a formal class. Grade school assumes that if you pass a grade you are prepared for the next grade... thus having all the prerequisites whether it be foundational math, english, latin, etc.
So what is the requirement for?
Why is it necessary?

I think this is the reason they scrapped it. Now they may have chose some "Woke" explanation just to make the messaging better for students but I bet it was deemed antiquated and no longer needed.
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Old 05-30-2021, 11:49 PM
 
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The poster you quoted said exactly that... you don't take a formal class. You learn primarily Latin throughout grade school and high school.
Almost everyone graduating high school can speak English and yet has zero knowledge of English grammar. It's not just about formal instruction, and that poster did say Latin is regularly taught at the primary and secondary level, which is false. If you have no formal understanding of something, but only know how to use it conventionally, you wouldn't be able to extend what you know to the same degree someone who has studied the subject would.
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Old 05-30-2021, 11:50 PM
 
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So what is the requirement for?
Why is it necessary?

I think this is the reason they scrapped it. Now they may have chose some "Woke" explanation just to make the messaging better for students but I bet it was deemed antiquated and no longer needed.
Many academic subjects (like math and science) are based on these languages. If you're asking why these subjects are necessary, it's probably best if you spend more time learning about academia and education as a whole.
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Old 05-30-2021, 11:51 PM
 
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My guess is that some people here did not go to high school in the US so they aren't familiar with our education system.
This is becoming evident.
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Old 05-30-2021, 11:55 PM
 
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Almost everyone graduating high school can speak English and yet has zero knowledge of English grammar. It's not just about formal instruction, and that poster did say Latin is regularly taught at the primary and secondary level, which is false. If you have no formal understanding of something, but only know how to use it conventionally, you wouldn't be able to extend what you know to the same degree someone who has studied the subject would.
You wouldn't be expected to know the language to the same degree as someone who studied it formally. The point is that in primary and secondary school, you spend quite a bit of time learning these languages (more Latin than Greek) so that poster is not far off on that. In regards to attending Princeton and studying classics, will you be able to rely on just what you learn in school? Probably not, but will this foundational understanding of the languages be useful? Sure.
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