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Old 05-21-2021, 02:05 PM
 
Location: Paradise
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I seem to recall a number of pundits saying the same thing shortly after the Dem loss in 2016.

Nearly everything evolves.
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Old 05-21-2021, 02:08 PM
 
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I didn't watch the whole clip of Lemon's statement but clearly the traditional Republican party is obsolete and I thought most right leaning folks here supported that.

There is definitely a new Republican party that has very different policy mandates than previous Republican parties.

It's okay -- doesn't mean that some nuanced version of the Republican party won't survive but it is not the traditional party.
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Old 05-21-2021, 02:09 PM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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Shrug, and you’ll lose it again too.
Yes. That is how it works. Not sure why every 2-4 years we have this same stupid argument.

When Republicans "win" the House, the Senate, and the presidency, they'll claim victory, but what did they win?
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Old 05-21-2021, 02:22 PM
 
Location: Northeast
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Don Lemon is all the negative things ever said about him and then some. But he is right about the Republican Party.

They were obsolete in the Reagan era, but Reagan had a gift for distracting the American people from that sad truth. That's why the party powerful loved and supported him. Reagan made Americans feel warm and fuzzy while Republican leaders gave a wink and a nod to Big Business as they exported America's economic future overseas.

In 2016, Donald Trump saved Republicans from themselves. They were given one last chance and they owe Trump for the new lease on life he gave them, but they haven't learned a thing. After their miserable failure to support him in 2020, they are right back to suicide mode, completely oblivious to what their fate will be when the day finally comes when Trump tells them "you're fired!". And that day is way overdue.

The Republican Party lags only slightly behind the Democrats in their efforts to impede the efforts of hard-working, law-abiding Americans to get this country back on track.
I stopped reading when you talked about a miserable failure to support Trump in 2020. That is blatantly false. Trump got some of the most votes in American history in the 2020 election and Republicans still overwhelmingly favor Trump.

And Don isn't right. Don is just doing the same thing Democrats/Liberals always do when the cyclical nature of politics favors them: Downplay the support for the GOP and prematurely declare them dead.

It's happened before when Obama got re-elected in 2012. Remember these articles?

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS...ry?id=18755809

https://www.businessinsider.com/gop-...autopsy-2013-3

People underestimate how many GOP voters there are, even in "Blue" states.
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Old 05-21-2021, 02:27 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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In midterms you are going to see a major wave of GOP wins. I'm a Biden voter and lifelong Dem, but I've had enough of the administrations "woke" rhetoric, with the final straw being after the Columbus fully justified police shooting Psaki referring to "police violence" and "systemic racism". I'm done.

If the GOP nut base that worships Trump would stop supporting crack pots, I'd be even more on board.
The problem is the GOP is basically all Trump worshippers. I think that with all the sham audits and obstruction to a Jan 6th committee as well as censuring anti-Rrump Republicans, they are gonna pay.
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Old 05-21-2021, 02:30 PM
 
Location: A safe distance from San Francisco
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For those of you who have have wasted your time claiming this is just the latest cycle of the back and forth between Ds and Rs that has been going on forever, you are either very young or haven't been paying attention.

This is NOT the same volley at all - not even close. The country and the world have profoundly changed.
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Old 05-21-2021, 02:56 PM
 
Location: Northeast
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For those of you who have have wasted your time claiming this is just the latest cycle of the back and forth between Ds and Rs that has been going on forever, you are either very young or haven't been paying attention.

This is NOT the same volley at all - not even close. The country and the world have profoundly changed.
Well, we'll see when the midterms are over.

I just know that Liberals have a tendency to get overly cocky when the pendulum swings their direction only to be proven wrong time and time again.
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Old 05-21-2021, 03:51 PM
 
Location: Florida
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You know who had those things by an even greater margin? Obama

You know who lost all those things badly? Obama

Biden is next.
Obama lost that majority because he was able to pull off Obamacare which still lives to this day despite the 60 times the GOP tried to repeal it.
At least he didn't kill 400,000 Americans like the last "true fascist" we had as a President.
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Old 05-21-2021, 04:01 PM
 
Location: California
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remember when Hillary was supposed to win easily and in a landslide?

Trump has yet to win a popular vote. He is 0 for 2.
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Old 05-21-2021, 04:04 PM
 
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remember when Hillary was supposed to win easily and in a landslide?
Biden too, but he barely won because of a fraction of a percent in Georgia, Arizona, and Wisconsin.
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