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Old 04-13-2021, 12:49 PM
 
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Convincing evidence for police reform, ATF Agent tased, arrested at gunpoint by Columbus Police, Agent treated like a citizen

A lot of discussion about police reform, but IMO, the courts are as much to blame as anything !!! They have allowed this kind of treatment to become routine !!!

The people have had enough of it !!! Change is going to happen !!! To bad it won't be well thought out change based on realities across communities around the nation !!!

??? After checking the links, who was the good cop, if there was one
?? If a Federal Agent doesn't have a chance to keep from being brutalized, how can everyday Joe citizen expect better

Notice race played no part in this incident/cop crime spree !!!

Cop #1 bodycam

ATF Agent tased, arrested at gunpoint by Columbus Police

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb1MVFDy_tw


ATF Agent Files Excessive Force Lawsuit Against Columbus ...

https://news.wosu.org/news/2020-12-1...umbus-officers

The case stems from a July 7 incident in which ATF special agent James Burk alleges two Columbus Police officers tased and handcuffed him while he attempted to carry out official duties. The complaint alleges Burk was trying to confiscate an illegally-held firearm.

The suspect called 911 and the dispatcher sent officers Joseph Fihe and Kevin Winchell. Burk contends this sort of confusion isn’t unheard of, but in a typical situation, the police officers would check his credentials and then either assist in retrieving the firearm or leave the scene.

In this case, despite putting his hands up and telling the officers he was a federal agent with credentials in his pocket, Burk says the two trained their guns on him, roughed him up, tased him and handcuffed him before finally checking his credentials. The officers then forced Burk into the back seat of a police cruiser

The case also alleges the officers later privately shared body cam footage from the incident with other officers, making light of the incident and mocking Burk. The lawsuit claims this underscores a code of silence within the division that amounts to a de facto policy.
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Old 04-13-2021, 12:56 PM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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The cop was right and the ATF officer was totally wrong. He should have gotten on the ground when he was told. The cop was absolutely right, he should have known that he had to obey commands in any encounter with the police. He, of all people, should have known that they had to treat him as an armed person up to no good. No way should they have taken his word for it. No way. I am willing to bet any amount of money that he would have reacted the same way if the tables had been turned. Once in that car he should have just sat there quietly until it could be sorted out.
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Old 04-13-2021, 01:01 PM
 
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The cop was right and the ATF officer was totally wrong. He should have gotten on the ground when he was told. The cop was absolutely right, he should have known that he had to obey commands in any encounter with the police. He, of all people, should have known that they had to treat him as an armed person up to no good. No way should they have taken his word for it. No way. I am willing to bet any amount of money that he would have reacted the same way if the tables had been turned. Once in that car he should have just sat there quietly until it could be sorted out.
The agent slipped out of the blueline gang and into the food chain !!!

He's a gun grabber He's a liar

ID is like crack cocaine to a cop !!!

??? What was the agents crime
??? Wanting to ID and avoid eating dirt
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Old 04-13-2021, 01:08 PM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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The cop was right and the ATF officer was totally wrong. He should have gotten on the ground when he was told. The cop was absolutely right, he should have known that he had to obey commands in any encounter with the police. He, of all people, should have known that they had to treat him as an armed person up to no good. No way should they have taken his word for it. No way. I am willing to bet any amount of money that he would have reacted the same way if the tables had been turned. Once in that car he should have just sat there quietly until it could be sorted out.
Bingo
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Old 04-13-2021, 01:10 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpeT02w5vDU


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Old 04-13-2021, 01:13 PM
 
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ATF agent is one dumb, arrogant son.

I hope the judge makes him cover the city attorney fees.

ATF is a bunch of cowboys that should have been disbanded over a decade ago.
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Old 04-13-2021, 01:22 PM
 
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The cop was right and the ATF officer was totally wrong. He should have gotten on the ground when he was told. The cop was absolutely right, he should have known that he had to obey commands in any encounter with the police. He, of all people, should have known that they had to treat him as an armed person up to no good. No way should they have taken his word for it. No way. I am willing to bet any amount of money that he would have reacted the same way if the tables had been turned. Once in that car he should have just sat there quietly until it could be sorted out.
Good lord it is shocking how many people here don't understand that if you simply obey commands you won't get tased, shot, etc.

You MAY go to jail if you have warrants or if you did something wrong, but you'll be alive and without personal injury.
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Old 04-13-2021, 02:15 PM
 
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Idicopracy - I seen it in a movie.
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Old 04-13-2021, 03:11 PM
 
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Idicopracy - I seen it in a movie.
Interesting comment !!! I looked up the move !!! You may be on to something !!!

Idiocracy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiocracy

American soldier who takes part in a classified hibernation experiment, only to be accidentally frozen for too long and awaken 500 years later in a dystopian[2] world where dysgenics and commercialism have run rampant, mankind has embraced anti-intellectualism, and society is devoid of such traits as intellectual curiosity, social responsibility, justice, and human rights.
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Old 08-01-2022, 01:51 PM
 
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Default Incompetent police

The homeowner called because the agent knocked on the door and asked for the gun owner. Instead of opening the door, the homeowner called the police, told the police that Burke was a federal agent and gave the dispatcher Burk's badge number, which Burk had given her.



Burk committed no crime and the information given to the dispatcher did not describe a crime. The role of the police would simply be to assess the situation and then take further action as needed.


You do not assess the situation with your guns drawn and ordering a person, who you have no reason to suspect has committed a crime, who in fact has been reported to be a federal agent, to lie on the ground and get cuffed.


Columbus taxpayer dollars are going to be spent. The case will eventually settle in the 6 figures.
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