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Old 01-24-2021, 06:58 PM
 
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This is to honor Hank Aaron.

Yet most of these people want to honor Hank Aaron by bashing the OP. That's not what I've heard of how Hank would act.
How is turning this into "let's talk about Black athletes in a criticizing way" honoring Hank Aaron?

 
Old 01-24-2021, 07:02 PM
 
Location: Sunny So. Cal.
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Yeah, that Mookie Betts, a horrible, horrible person. But Ryan Leaf and Johnny Manziel were alter boys who could never do any wrong, right?
 
Old 01-24-2021, 07:55 PM
 
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So another race tinged thread about a sports legend from a Trump supporter.
You couldn't have just made a thread about him instead of delving into the gutter?
No surprise there !
Most threads here devolve into racism and hate...very sad....i predict they will get rid of this politics section soon...more of the legend Hank Aaron here and what he overcame...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hank_Aaron
 
Old 01-24-2021, 08:06 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Feltdesigner View Post
nah.. more like “I like Black people once they die”

They did the same thing with MLK and Ali.. when they were fighting for respect they were the enemy. After they were killed or frail and sick they were hero’s.

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Not necessarily.

I was raised to see Muhammad Ali as a coward and a traitor, that name was not even allowed to be spoken in the house but rather his birth name.

As an adult, once out of my Father's influence, I listened to other opinions and now, I do not think of him as such for the extent and losses he went through to be a CO, I accept that if that is the name he (or anyone else who changes their name) "wishes" to be called by, then so be it.

On a different note 1, growing up a military brat, I did not realize the racism in the world till around 6th grade (and then, didn't understand what busing was until 9th grade) or so due to the integration in the military world and often the isolation of the base we lived on. As such, I hardly think my Father's objection to Mr. Ali was because he was black but more that, to him, he was just another one who skipped out on the Vietnam War.

On a different note 2, perhaps it is something of being a child, in my genes, or just only knowing what one is told, but between Mr. Ali, busing, and now alternate communication methods (not realizing it was the far right pushing it), I find I often don't have a clue to real meaning behind things.
Sounds to me that you're reinforcing what Feltdesigner said.
 
Old 01-24-2021, 08:07 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Hank Aron that experienced real racism and hatred, fought it with class, dignity, grace unlike the frauds and phonies of the world “ Colin Kapernick”!



https://nypost.com/2021/01/22/hank-aaron-dead-at-86/
You have zero understanding of the time Aaron lived ,if he truly spoke his mind his life wood have been in jeopardy. Just imagine if Kaepernick lived back then. These changes to racism are a series steps, completely different time and place.
 
Old 01-24-2021, 08:12 PM
 
Location: HONOLULU
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Did he die of receiving the vaccine? It was just January 5, 2021 he received the vaccine. 19 days ago. This could be a case of wrong diagnosis. Include the COVID-19 he already had. So this makes it harder. The vaccine caused also a lot of other things to happen. I'm not sure exactly what he died of. I'll have to find the original article I red it on. It looks to me like at 86 years old, other factor like poor health, aging, and basically overall condition played a role in this occurrence. Hank Aaron the best hitter in baseball at one time. And he was 6 ft. tall. Kind of small for today's standards. Jose Canseco hit 462 homeruns and he stood at 6-4 tall. So more commanding than Hank Aaron, even though less homeruns. COVID-19 hits anyone. So it is not a race thing.
 
Old 01-24-2021, 08:16 PM
 
Location: Texas Hill Country
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.........Sounds to me that you're reinforcing what Feltdesigner said.
Hardly at all.

I was raised one way but as an adult, I listened to other people and changed my view. In part, it gets into being in that kind of world I described in the Hate thread about sinking hospital ships. When one is deeply in a military environment, one usually takes on those certain view points, such as being against those people who avoid going to war.

But outside that environment, it is possible to hear other opinions, see things in different ways, and change one's outlook.
 
Old 01-24-2021, 08:25 PM
 
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They can't help but see race. It's ingrained.
Do you think it is nurture or in the DNA?
 
Old 01-24-2021, 08:51 PM
 
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Hardly at all.

I was raised one way but as an adult, I listened to other people and changed my view. In part, it gets into being in that kind of world I described in the Hate thread about sinking hospital ships. When one is deeply in a military environment, one usually takes on those certain view points, such as being against those people who avoid going to war.

But outside that environment, it is possible to hear other opinions, see things in different ways, and change one's outlook.

Only because you aren't the "they" that Feltdesigner was talking about. Your father was the "they."
 
Old 01-24-2021, 08:55 PM
 
Location: Texas Hill Country
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Only because you aren't the "they" that Feltdesigner was talking about. Your father was the "they."
OH, COME OFF IT!


You are talking about the military, an integrated population where there are people of all types around. For the world that Mr. Feltdesigner talked about, where a type of people are only respected when they are dead, one couldn't last at all in that world.
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