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Absolutely, I believe most americans agree too, the problem is the extreme left and right are the loudest.
It's all on old man Biden now. We'll see how he handles it. I'm highly underwhemled with the man, but I'm always happy to be proven wrong.
Is it even possible for Biden to stand up to BLM when BLM is on rampage? I sure hope so, but will he put "but the voted for me" ahead of doing the right thing??
One the one hand the "intent" was absolutely clear. There was nothing peaceful or innocent about what those breaking into the seat of Congress wanted to do. They absolutely wanted to target members of Congress
On the other hand, if they got their hands on Pelosi or AOC, it would've been a lot of theatrics and hamming for the cameras. Worst case, it would've looked like the countries where they throw some politician into the dumpster, to make a point. Fine.
Let's move on, and treat it like is... Rioters voicing their displeasure at a system and outcomes they disagree with.
The trade off? Conservatives can never, ever, ever complain about the random acts of violence that happen on the margins during other popular movements.
Conservatives can never, ever, ever try to claim an entire movement is responsible for the actions of the worst actors/supporters.
Conservatives can never, ever, ever dismiss the root causes that other popular movements bring to light bc of off-message behavior from a minority of the supporters.
The trade off is obviously to Conservatives benefits bc even if you want to make the false equivalency between rioters targeting private business to "rioters" targeting the seat of govt, you know they're different. You know there's a gray area that both groups land on opposite sides of. You know it, just based on the recriminations coming from international viewers. You know it.
But you can have it. You just now and forever, never ever ever try to bring your "holier than thou" criticisms against people mobilizing for justice just bc 100% of their supporters don't act on their best behavior 100% of the time.
Otherwise, we continue down the path where we recognize Donald Trump is the architect of a coup against the US govt. Republicans are the party of autocrats who would tear down America for their pretty grievances. Their supporters should targeted for prosecution to the fullest extent of the law as insurrectionists.
as a conservative i don't want your trade.
As a conservative, i want this criminals and thugs put in prison because ALL RIOTERS need to be put in prison. EVEN when they may be some political leanings that i may agree with.
we don't stand for injustice. we don't stand for rioting. period. end of story. I do however, appreciate your consistency. (I mean that). Most of your friends on the left have all the sudden found outrage for rioting. like wow! who can believe people would do such a thing. i have no respect for that. this, while i disagree with you, i at least respect your consistent position.
The thing people about riots during popular movements is that they happen EVERYTIME. EVERY. TIME.
Again... EV. E. RY. TIME.
The issue isn't riots. The issue is people dismissing the root cause of the popular movement by focusing on riots. No one wants riots, but they're going to happen. And focusing on that everytime there's a popular movement is being purposely dim and counterproductive to addressing the issues at hand.
Capitol Hill riots were instigated by Trump. The root cause were already and repeatedly debunked. But the people participating were purposely misled by the actions of one man and his enablers.
One the one hand the "intent" was absolutely clear. There was nothing peaceful or innocent about what those breaking into the seat of Congress wanted to do. They absolutely wanted to target members of Congress
On the other hand, if they got their hands on Pelosi or AOC, it would've been a lot of theatrics and hamming for the cameras. Worst case, it would've looked like the countries where they throw some politician into the dumpster, to make a point. Fine.
Let's move on, and treat it like is... Rioters voicing their displeasure at a system and outcomes they disagree with.
The trade off? Conservatives can never, ever, ever complain about the random acts of violence that happen on the margins during other popular movements.
Conservatives can never, ever, ever try to claim an entire movement is responsible for the actions of the worst actors/supporters.
Conservatives can never, ever, ever dismiss the root causes that other popular movements bring to light bc of off-message behavior from a minority of the supporters.
The trade off is obviously to Conservatives benefits bc even if you want to make the false equivalency between rioters targeting private business to "rioters" targeting the seat of govt, you know they're different. You know there's a gray area that both groups land on opposite sides of. You know it, just based on the recriminations coming from international viewers. You know it.
But you can have it. You just now and forever, never ever ever try to bring your "holier than thou" criticisms against people mobilizing for justice just bc 100% of their supporters don't act on their best behavior 100% of the time.
Otherwise, we continue down the path where we recognize Donald Trump is the architect of a coup against the US govt. Republicans are the party of autocrats who would tear down America for their pretty grievances. Their supporters should targeted for prosecution to the fullest extent of the law as insurrectionists.
Trump isn't conservative and neither are his supporters. To say so is dishonest.
That said, anyone who destroyed property needs to be punished.
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