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Old 11-12-2020, 07:08 PM
 
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Dems may politely nod when Reps declare that Dems are also at fault with the extremism. But we know that it's not comparable.

And now an investigation points this out.

GOP leaders’ embrace of Trump’s refusal to concede fits pattern of rising authoritarianism, data shows
Research by a team of international scholars shows the Republican Party’s shift away from democratic norms predates Donald Trump but has accelerated since

By Christopher Ingraham

“The Republican Party in the U.S. has retreated from upholding democratic norms in recent years,” said Anna Lührmann, a political scientist at the University of Gothenburg in Sweden and a former member of the German parliament. “Its rhetoric is closer to authoritarian parties, such as AKP in Turkey and Fidesz in Hungary.”

The Democratic Party, by contrast, hasn’t changed much. This is a prime example of what political scientists call asymmetric polarization — a growing partisan gap driven almost entirely by the actions of the Republican Party.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...ritarian-data/
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Old 11-12-2020, 07:22 PM
 
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What was Stacey Abraham’s refusal to concede? Was that part of her authoritarianism? No. It was her right to not concede. By the same token Trump has zero obligation to concede. The Electoral College meets on December 14, then, and only then will the next president be determined. Why is there such an overwhelming need for him to concede?
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Old 11-12-2020, 07:27 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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Dems may politely nod when Reps declare that Dems are also at fault with the extremism. But we know that it's not comparable.

And now an investigation points this out.

GOP leaders’ embrace of Trump’s refusal to concede fits pattern of rising authoritarianism, data shows
Research by a team of international scholars shows the Republican Party’s shift away from democratic norms predates Donald Trump but has accelerated since

By Christopher Ingraham

“The Republican Party in the U.S. has retreated from upholding democratic norms in recent years,” said Anna Lührmann, a political scientist at the University of Gothenburg in Sweden and a former member of the German parliament. “Its rhetoric is closer to authoritarian parties, such as AKP in Turkey and Fidesz in Hungary.”

The Democratic Party, by contrast, hasn’t changed much. This is a prime example of what political scientists call asymmetric polarization — a growing partisan gap driven almost entirely by the actions of the Republican Party.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...ritarian-data/

and think most of this was written before he has gone on his mass-purge of anyone who isn't 100% loyal to him in his lameduck session. along with trying to sow doubt and division in the very fabric of our democracy with the election.
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Old 11-12-2020, 07:46 PM
 
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“The Left is right and the Right is wrong.” Yawn. Wake me up when we get to January. If the party that lost December’s electoral vote is still trying to play hardball I’ll grab a rifle and march right alongside you to water the tree.
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Old 11-12-2020, 07:54 PM
 
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Dems may politely nod when Reps declare that Dems are also at fault with the extremism. But we know that it's not comparable.

And now an investigation points this out.

GOP leaders’ embrace of Trump’s refusal to concede fits pattern of rising authoritarianism, data shows
Research by a team of international scholars shows the Republican Party’s shift away from democratic norms predates Donald Trump but has accelerated since

By Christopher Ingraham

“The Republican Party in the U.S. has retreated from upholding democratic norms in recent years,” said Anna Lührmann, a political scientist at the University of Gothenburg in Sweden and a former member of the German parliament. “Its rhetoric is closer to authoritarian parties, such as AKP in Turkey and Fidesz in Hungary.”

The Democratic Party, by contrast, hasn’t changed much. This is a prime example of what political scientists call asymmetric polarization — a growing partisan gap driven almost entirely by the actions of the Republican Party.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...ritarian-data/
Washington post well I use that for toilet paper that’s the only good use. Democrats have changed or do you think AOC and her squad are normal? I think the gap is because of the insanity of some of the members in the Democratic Party. Look at Pelosi
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Old 11-15-2020, 03:19 PM
 
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What was Stacey Abraham’s refusal to concede? Was that part of her authoritarianism? No. It was her right to not concede. By the same token Trump has zero obligation to concede. The Electoral College meets on December 14, then, and only then will the next president be determined. Why is there such an overwhelming need for him to concede?
I wish I could give you a good answer, but I'm not familiar with the statistics of her case, of how close the vote was, and so on. But if I remember correctly, in her case, hadn't her opponent been instrumental in purging the voter rolls in a very suspicious way that would tend to benefit himself?

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Washington post well I use that for toilet paper that’s the only good use. Democrats have changed or do you think AOC and her squad are normal? I think the gap is because of the insanity of some of the members in the Democratic Party. Look at Pelosi
No, I don't think AOC is the norm, which is why I always wonder why people like you keep harping on her.
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Old 11-16-2020, 01:43 PM
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I wish I could give you a good answer, but I'm not familiar with the statistics of her case, of how close the vote was, and so on. But if I remember correctly, in her case, hadn't her opponent been instrumental in purging the voter rolls in a very suspicious way that would tend to benefit himself?



No, I don't think AOC is the norm, which is why I always wonder why people like you keep harping on her.
No. He purged the voter rolls in compliance with federal law.

What was suspicious was a lot of the people she registered in her voter registration drive, for which she paid herself 6 figures. There were 19 indictments for faking registrations. Not surprisingly, many of those she registered never voted and never responded to requests from the Secretary of State to confirm their addresses. So they were legitimately purged.

And Black turnout in that election was higher than white turnout and better than it had been in any previous gubernatorial election.
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