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Old 11-06-2020, 06:02 AM
 
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There are no winners here. Not Biden, not Trump, not 330,000,000 citizens.

If there was no voter fraud, then a sitting president made a mockery of democracy alleging a system in place for 240 years is fraudulent. That's spitting in the face of the country that elected him four years ago.

If there was voter fraud, then the entire voting process might need an overhaul, and America proved it will do anything to get it's way. Manipulating a system that is supposed to highlight the democratic process would be 100% anti-America.

The sting of one side being wrong regarding voter fraud will linger for a very long time and leave a very sour taste in the minds of 1/2 of America who voted for the other guy. Whoever is declared the winner, the other 1/2 will not nor ever accept this election to be legitimate. The world has been watching, and America is losing credibility globally.

There are no winners in 2020.
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Old 11-06-2020, 06:04 AM
 
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If there was voter fraud, then the entire voting process might need an overhaul, and America proved it will do anything to get it's way. Manipulating a system that is supposed to highlight the democratic process would be 100% anti-America.
My concern, andI think the concern of all voters should be that this election stuff continues to be hopelessly messed up -- this leads me to believe that they want it this way so they can cheat.

Dem or not, that is scary.
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Old 11-06-2020, 06:05 AM
 
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There are no winners here. Not Biden, not Trump, not 330,000,000 citizens.

If there was no voter fraud, then a sitting president made a mockery of democracy alleging a system in place for 240 years is fraudulent. That's spitting in the face of the country that elected him four years ago.

If there was voter fraud, then the entire voting process might need an overhaul, and America proved it will do anything to get it's way. Manipulating a system that is supposed to highlight the democratic process would be 100% anti-America.

The sting of one side being wrong regarding voter fraud will linger for a very long time and leave a very sour taste in the minds of 1/2 of America who voted for the other guy. Whoever is declared the winner, the other 1/2 will not nor ever accept this election to be legitimate.

There are no winners in 2020.
Unless there is actual proof of fraud, and not videos of people loading camera equipment into vans, the voter fraud allegation should reside in the same circular file as the Obama birther BS.

The only damage that can be done to the country is if stupid angry people believe whatever lies Trump has told them and take violent action.
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Old 11-06-2020, 06:06 AM
 
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Unless there is actual proof of fraud, and not videos of people loading camera equipment into vans, the voter fraud allegation should reside in the same circular file as the Obama birther BS.

The only damage that can be done to the country is if stupid angry people believe whatever lies Trump has told them and take violent action.
It is impossible to find proof of fraud when the counting is controlled by the other side.
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Old 11-06-2020, 06:07 AM
 
Location: Currently in Florida for a little while
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In some states you do not need to show ID in order to vote. In California you can register to vote without having to show a picture ID. But even then, illegals are allowed to get drivers licenses in California, and can then register to vote with their California state license -- so even if ID was required, illegals who have driver's licenses would be able to vote in California.
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Old 11-06-2020, 06:08 AM
 
Location: DFW
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Democrats, Media, Pollsters have committed huge fraud and corruption over the last 4 years and Patriotic Americans will remember.

That's why you saw the huge Trump rallies. Trump has exposed how far they will go.

America is not broke but Democrats sure are trying hard to do so.
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Old 11-06-2020, 06:13 AM
 
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This election puts the American's ignorance of how their own government works on display to the whole world.

Thinking that the reason they lost is because the other side cheats and steals needs says more about them than it does the other side.

It does not help winners or losers when sports teams are reveled to be cheaters either.

The character and morals of all of us needs some serious evaluation.

We could start at examining what facts are. We no longer have any relationship with facts.

Lots of opinions, but not a lot of knowledge.
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Old 11-06-2020, 06:15 AM
 
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It is impossible to find proof of fraud when the counting is controlled by the other side.
Are actual GOP BOE workers saying this, or just fanatic Trump supporters?

In NY, all elections have to be supervised by bipartisans. I believe the same situation resides in PA. Because the Trump team wanted to flood the polling sites with lawyers to intimidate and harass people and the BOE said no, doesn't mean that there weren't GOP observers there.
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Old 11-06-2020, 06:16 AM
 
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It is impossible to find proof of fraud when the counting is controlled by the other side.
You might want to understand how the process works before alleging the other side cheated.

States and counties have rules that provide for all involved in any race from POTUS to dog catcher have observers present during all aspects of counting.

And they have for a hundred years.
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Old 11-06-2020, 06:19 AM
 
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Are actual GOP BOE workers saying this, or just fanatic Trump supporters?

In NY, all elections have to be supervised by bipartisans. I believe the same situation resides in PA. Because the Trump team wanted to flood the polling sites with lawyers to intimidate and harass people and the BOE said no, doesn't mean that there weren't GOP observers there.
In one state, Trump raised a stink to move the observers from 10 feet to 6 feet from the counters.

They could see no tampering was going on from 10 feet. He didn't test his observers to be sure they were not incubating Covid.
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