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Old 10-24-2020, 05:03 AM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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I wouldn't appeal this ruling to the US Supreme Court until after Amy Coney Barrett is seated next week. We've already seen how Roberts voted to allow PA to count ballots delivered up until 3 days after election day.
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Old 10-24-2020, 05:13 AM
 
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I wouldn't appeal this ruling to the US Supreme Court until after Amy Coney Barrett is seated next week. We've already seen how Roberts voted to allow PA to count ballots delivered up until 3 days after election day.
That’s exactly what I was thinking. After ACB is seated, the ruling will go 5-4 and not allow Roberts to make it a tie.

What about the earlier ruling, saying that ballots can be accepted days after the election even if it isn’t clear when the ballot was postmarked? What is entailed in revisiting that ruling?

Finally, if it all comes down to Pennsylvania, with Trump winning Election Night and Biden winning it only after they collect enough ballots to swing it back to him days later, this will throw the nation into crisis - with the leftists trying to cheat their way in, the legitimate voters trying to see that their voice isn’t being silenced by fraud, and the SCOTUS making the ultimate call. For Trump, and rightly so.
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Old 10-24-2020, 05:24 AM
 
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That’s exactly what I was thinking. After ACB is seated, the ruling will go 5-4 and not allow Roberts to make it a tie.

What about the earlier ruling, saying that ballots can be accepted days after the election even if it isn’t clear when the ballot was postmarked? What is entailed in revisiting that ruling?

Finally, if it all comes down to Pennsylvania, with Trump winning Election Night and Biden winning it only after they collect enough ballots to swing it back to him days later, this will throw the nation into crisis - with the leftists trying to cheat their way in, the legitimate voters trying to see that their voice isn’t being silenced by fraud, and the SCOTUS making the ultimate call. For Trump, and rightly so.
I've had those same questions. I'm pretty sure that the petitioners can appeal to the Court once again as a decision wasn't actually reached. Whether the Court will even take up the appeal this time is another story as it is likely to cause confusion close to the election.
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Old 10-24-2020, 05:37 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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So? Won't Republican signatures that don't match be counted too?

So just allow all fraud then it's OK? Do you hear yourself? The Democrats are the party of Fraud and you support it!
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Old 10-24-2020, 09:26 AM
 
Location: Lost in Montana *recalculating*...
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But the ruling is mail-in ballot can't be challenged or thrown out based on the signature .
You all apparently don't understand the PA Code addressed the matter of challenges already in their code. You can look at EVERY States rules on this link.

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“[t]he Pennsylvania Election Code does not authorize the county board of elections to set aside returned absentee or mail-in ballots based solely on signature analysis by the county board of elections.” Id.
http://www.bazelon.org/wp-content/up...s-by-State.pdf

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Who can challenge a ballot- A commissioner, registrar, clerk, or qualified elector of the municipality may challenge.

25 PA. CONS. STAT. § 1329.
To make a challenge, a complainant must file a challenge affidavit containing the following information: (1) Name of challenged individual; (2) address of challenged individual; (3) name of complainant; (4) address of complainant; (5) date of affidavit; and (6) reason for challenge. An individual who is challenged must respond to the challenge affidavit in a written statement sworn or affirmed by the individual. The challenged individual must produce such other evidence as may be required to satisfy the registrar or
commissioner as to the individual's qualifications. If the challenged individual establishes to the satisfaction of the commission the right to be registered, the challenged individual shall be registered. Otherwise, the challenged individual's registration shall be cancelled.

25 PA. CONS. STAT. § 1329.
With respect to absentee electors, upon a challenge, the board shall mark “challenged” on the envelope together with the reasons therefor, and the same shall be set aside for return to the county board unopened pending decision. The board shall fix a time and place for a formal hearing of all challenges and notice shall be given where possible to all absentee electors so challenged and to every attorney, watcher or candidate who made such challenge. The time for the hearing shall not be later than seven days after the date of said challenge. When hearing the challenge, the board shall not be bound by technical rules of evidence and its decision may be reviewed by the court of common pleas of the county upon a petition filed by any person aggrieved by the decision. Appeals must be taken within two days of the decision, whether reduced to writing or not. Any person challenging an application for an absentee ballot or an absentee ballot for any of the reasons provided herein shall deposit $10 in cash with the local election board or county board, depending on whom the challenge was made (may be refunded if challenge is sustained or timely withdrawn).Id. § 3146.8
You folks can stomp your feet, whine, cry false claims or pound on the floor until your blue. The PA Code already addressed the matter in their code, and the PA Supreme Court ruled 7-0 to the affirmative of the code.
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Old 10-24-2020, 09:37 AM
 
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I wonder if the present activist Supreme Court will again trample on state's rights with regards to voting?
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Old 10-24-2020, 09:38 AM
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Since we don't teach cursive in schools anymore then people will just print their names in the future. How are they going to compare that. My signature changes all the time because I'm not used writing my name anymore. Everything is on keyboard now. I write it half in cursive and half in print. Weird, I know.
My signature changes too, and I think there are a lot of us like that.

My signature changes so dramatically, very quickly, that I've had trouble with getting a notarized signature. One time was especially bad - between the time the notary witnessed me signing a form, and the time I had to sign her roster (several minutes passed) my signature had changed so dramatically it was unrecognizable.

It's an anxiety thing.

But I think some people have other conditions - a stroke, or a hand injury, or a trauma in their lives - that changes their signature.

It's interesting that ALL the justices on the PA supreme court ruled this way, democrat AND republican.
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Old 10-24-2020, 09:44 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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So, no postmark at all means it is not clearly marked after 8 pm Election Day. And, now signatures don’t have to match.

If the difference comes down to Pennsylvania the election can literally be stolen.
If PA has drop boxes, the ballots will not have postmarks.

That’s how it is in CO. Ballots just to be in the boxes by/before the cut-off on Election Day.
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Old 10-24-2020, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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No that's not what they said.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/1...natures-431794



They never said signatures 'don't have to match'. What they said is they can't be summarily rejected based SOLELY on that. The standard challenge rules still exist on those ballots potentially suspect.

I highly doubt the state has handwriting experts on hand in sufficient numbers to analyze signatures. Anything suspect goes through a challenge process.

Furthermore this ruling was unanimous with 5 democrats and 2 republican judges.
Essentially, voters have to be given the opportunity to cure their ballots if there are questions about the signature.
Seems fair.
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Old 10-24-2020, 09:57 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Default Harris/Biden ticket

travesty of justice imposed by democrats. confidence in voting purposely destroyed in an attempt to win the election by fraud and thousands of ballots will be rejected because of failing to complete the mail in ballot as directed in included IKEA style instructions. then the people opening the ballots make a mistake to compound the problem. As we all must use mail in ballots the people opening the ballots will be overwhelmed and prone to mistakes.

Compare a list of potential errors via mail in ballots vs pulling a lever in a booth. the process prone to the greatest amount of errors has been imposed by dem governors. This will never ever be forgiven. No one is above the law....unless you are a democrat on a mission to destroy the USA.

No name on the ballot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! what the heck?????????????

Once the ballot is separated from the two envelopes in which it is mailed there is no way to trace the ballot back to a specific voter! Who in their right mind thought that was a good idea??????????????????

that explains why the dems are running a diminished candidate who would have otherwise been eliminated from the campaign during any other election. Ask Dukakis or Perry. Dems may as well be running an empty cardboard box filled with far left zealots as by running harris/biden.

post election dems will figure how many votes they need and just fill in enough nameless ballots to get them over the line to a stolen victory.

the real Question, what states will secede from the union and to which state will you move?
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