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Old 10-21-2020, 01:33 PM
 
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Originally Posted by canudigit View Post
The MSM is doing him a huge favor by being so biased, do they even realize that? President Trump is getting a ton of empathy and indignant support from people who may not even like him but can't stand the blatant bias of the MSM. Your average American wants to feel a sense of fairness, an even playing field. When they see that one party is being treated ridiculously unfairly just out of pure hatred (Savannah Guthrie, this is you), they want to root for the underdog. This is just an American thing, maybe a human thing, and it's real and it's happening for the President right now.

The blatant bias also serves to magnify what a terrible candidate Joe Biden is, hence why they have to carry him and coddle him through these things.

Best thing for President Trump to do is to show up, contain his rightful indignation about the gross mistreatment, and be the underdog for a supportive audience.
Trump brings all of this on himself. He lies constantly, interrupts, throws out wild accusations, etc.

 
Old 10-21-2020, 01:33 PM
 
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Three steps for Trump to cruise to victory:

1) Start his time every turn by saying "everything Vice President Biden just said is either a lie or nonsense."

2) End his time every turn by saying "and I now yield my time so Vice President Biden can speak more lies and nonsense."

3) Do nothing but smile whenever Biden is speaking.

Done.

See, they won't fact check Biden when he lies, which is virtually every time he speaks, so why would they when Trump calls him out for lying? Free win for Trump.
 
Old 10-21-2020, 01:34 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Did you mean Chris Wallace? You don't get a lot of credit when you can't even get the names of your idols right.
Haha, I don't watch him, though I do know his name... or I thought I did.
 
Old 10-21-2020, 01:35 PM
 
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Originally Posted by brennan2323 View Post
Trump brings all of this on himself. He lies constantly, interrupts, throws out wild accusations, etc.
You could have said the exact same thing only substituted "Biden" for "Trump".
 
Old 10-21-2020, 01:36 PM
 
Location: NC
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Its not attacking when folks ask you a tough question.
Exactly. Any leader worth their weight in salt sees a tough question as an opportunity. Only someone who is weak, or who doesn't have a plan would see that as anything else.


If the moderator asked something as biased as "why are you such a bad candidate?" a good debater would take that question and turn it around with facts. Facts are not Trump's friend, that is why he always whines about being treated poorly. He made his own bed.

And the OP's premise is false. The moderator cannot just turn off the mic whenever they want. I was given to understand it was only during opening statements. But if Trump follows the rules that he agreed to, then why would anyone even NEED to turn off his mic? If they tried that, then he wouldn't even have to lie about the bias, it would be there for everyone to see. He has to lie about it, because he has no substance.
 
Old 10-21-2020, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Exactly. Any leader worth their weight in salt sees a tough question as an opportunity. Only someone who is weak, or who doesn't have a plan would see that as anything else.


If the moderator asked something as biased as "why are you such a bad candidate?" a good debater would take that question and turn it around with facts. Facts are not Trump's friend, that is why he always whines about being treated poorly. He made his own bed.

And the OP's premise is false. The moderator cannot just turn off the mic whenever they want. I was given to understand it was only during opening statements. But if Trump follows the rules that he agreed to, then why would anyone even NEED to turn off his mic? If they tried that, then he wouldn't even have to lie about the bias, it would be there for everyone to see. He has to lie about it, because he has no substance.
My understanding is that after each question, each candidate will get two minutes of uninterrupted speaking time, as they've agreed to. The other candidate's mic will be muted to enforce the rules. Neither should have an issue with this. After they have each spoken, they'll have unmuted discussion time, and the moderator is to keep them to roughly equal amounts of time before the next question.
 
Old 10-21-2020, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Spain
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He needs to stay calm and let Biden talk himself into a mess.
It hasn't happened in any of the debates yet, so not a good plan.


He needs to ask Biden about his sons involvement and payoffs by foreign powers while using his Dad's influence and position to secure millions that were then funneled back to the Biden family.
Biden will deny it and point out Republican led Senate committee closed it's investigation finding no evidence of improper influence or wrongdoing by the former vice president


He needs to ask Biden about his plans to increase taxes by repealing his tax cuts.
Biden will say he will only increase taxes on the wealthy


He needs to ask Biden about Packing the Court and press him for an answer.
Biden will say he hasn't decided and dodge the question


He needs to ask Biden about his stance on banning fossil fuels.
Biden will say he doesn't want to ban fossil fuels


He needs to ask Biden about his plans to rewrite the Second amendment and to seize guns from the law abiding while doing very little about criminals that use guns in their crimes.
Biden will say he has no plans to rewrite the 2nd amendment and point out he's a gun owner


He needs to ask Biden about his plan for Illegal Aliens and his pledge to give amnesty to 11 million of them plus free healthcare for the estimated 11 million more that are in the country.
Biden will say those are false distortions of his actual plan


He needs to ask him about the Democrat rush towards socialism.
Biden will say he's no socialist and doesn't support a socialist system


Did I miss anything?
A good debate plan
How I think Biden would respond in bold
 
Old 10-21-2020, 02:03 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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He should just stay home. Early voting has been a steady stream of people plunging a knife into the stinking carcass of the Trump administration. It is a cathartic and cleansing experience. They are smiling when they come out. Trump cannot do anything to save himself at this point.
That is one hell of a statement to be making.
And what are you going to be saying if Trump should win?
Making a statement as you have, will make you look like a real a$$hole if you aren't right.
 
Old 10-21-2020, 02:58 PM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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Originally Posted by Volobjectitarian View Post
Three steps for Trump to cruise to victory:

1) Start his time every turn by saying "everything Vice President Biden just said is either a lie or nonsense."

2) End his time every turn by saying "and I now yield my time so Vice President Biden can speak more lies and nonsense."

3) Do nothing but smile whenever Biden is speaking.

Done.

See, they won't fact check Biden when he lies, which is virtually every time he speaks, so why would they when Trump calls him out for lying? Free win for Trump.





Great ideas!





Is there anyway that we can summon the spirit of Ronald Reagan and have him possess Trump for a few hours?

Trump has great ideas, he has been a good President that could be great but boy he needs some help in getting his point across sometimes.



I think he should be practicing his eye rolls and fake laugh for when Biden is answering and lying.

He should also plan at least one time when he stares right at the camera and asks us to ask ourselves "Joe has had 47 years in politics, 8 as VP, what has he done for you? what has the Democrat party done for you?" and then zip it..
 
Old 10-21-2020, 03:07 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Unlikely the debate will change anyone’s mind.

I am the classic undecided and will chose to vote against one of them in the voting booth, no diff than 2016.

I have no intention of watching the theatre of debate unless there is increased certainty the fly will re-emerge.
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