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Old 07-24-2020, 09:05 AM
 
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Financially I have never been better. No complaints.
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Old 07-24-2020, 10:52 AM
 
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I didn't have to worry about dying pr having family members die by working for a living. I didn't have a president threatening my job by cutting education if schools don't reopen. So I have to vote no. I might make more money, but I may have huge healthcare bills to pay off if I do get the virus at work. But where I live prices for things including gas are slightly up as well.
No need to worry about school budgets. Healthcare cost are another thing.

Schools get around 10% of their budgets from the feds. That's for special programs for economically disadvantaged and special needs. Most of it is for free and reduced lunches.
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Old 07-25-2020, 08:18 PM
 
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No need to worry about school budgets. Healthcare cost are another thing.

Schools get around 10% of their budgets from the feds. That's for special programs for economically disadvantaged and special needs. Most of it is for free and reduced lunches.

But the budgets will be effected greatly by less tax revenue.
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Old 07-25-2020, 09:10 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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I am curious. Do explain. Obama got reelected because the economy was better than 4 years before. In my opinion it was better because we went deeply into debt to prop up the economy which I was against. Obama got the credit.

Explain how it was the worst in 2012 when Obama ran for reelection?

Fast forward to 2020. We have gone even deeper in debt this time. We do not know if the economy will bounce back or stay sluggish. Obama had the advantage of having 4 years to boost up the economy where Trump has just a few months. Not fair to Trump but life is not fair. Timing is everything.

So we have massive unemployment. Lower GDP. The stock market is doing fine but for most people that does not put food on the table. Explain how for most people things are better now. Things are better for me for sure. Because of my effort not because of our government.
It might shock you based on my posting history, I didn't vote Obama either time. I voted McCain because he froze his campaign to vote on the bailout. Plus McCain was a far different than most Republicans and I didn't buy Obama's platform and if he could stick to it. He wanted transparency but never got it. He wanted to pull us out of the Middle East but never did it (neither has Trump for that matter and ran on this too.) In 2012, I graduated without work and to me the economy didn't get too rolling so I didn't buy Obama on the economy.

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No need to worry about school budgets. Healthcare cost are another thing.

Schools get around 10% of their budgets from the feds. That's for special programs for economically disadvantaged and special needs. Most of it is for free and reduced lunches.
Not really. My job is somewhat based on special needs billing as I stated before. I have billed and while I don't do it as much as I have of late. It largely happened when I worked more with moderate and severe children.

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But the budgets will be effected greatly by less tax revenue.
This too. My school district needs to pass a budget override this year or there will be shortfalls starting next school year. Not that we aren't already running on a razor thin budget due to CoronaVirus issues. I went from having a laptop the last two years to having none this year and needing to bring my own to help out with the online start of school.
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Old 07-25-2020, 09:56 PM
 
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Financially I am better off. But that's about it, and honestly personal finance should always take a back seat to quality of life. Our quality of life is definitely not better. We don't go out except to take the dog for walks at the park. We get our groceries delivered. I worry about my parents, especially my dad who has a job that has him in close contact with others on a regular basis, usually idiots that don't wear masks because they think the pandemic is a hoax. My sister is a delivery nurse that has had to deal directly with COVID patients. She has three children younger than age 5. Because of Trump's bumbling of the Defense Production Act, she was wearing homemade masks at the hospital.

We have a baby on the way this fall, and on top of the normal stresses of pregnancy, it is a high risk pregnancy. I have no idea what the future holds for raising this baby in a pandemic. Will the hospitals be filling up again with COVID patients this fall? Will I even be allowed to be in the delivery room during the birth? Will my family be able to meet the baby? How do you socialize a baby during a pandemic? Will we have to choose between risking putting our baby into daycare, or have my wife quit her job so she can stay home to raise the baby? What happens if one of us gets COVID? Or both?

Yes, I have been pondering all of these questions. It makes me angry that our child will be born into this divisive, ugly world led by an even more divisive, ugly, AND incompetent administration.

I don't envy the parents that are dealing with deciding to keep their children home or send them back to school this fall. It has to be keeping them awake at night. Selfishly, I am glad that we don't have to deal with that dilemma quite yet. But I feel for them, because I have numerous family and friends that are/were teachers and/or have kids that are school age. It's hard enough being a teacher during normal times; I can't imagine the stress they are carrying with them now.

No, quality of life is definitely not better. We're angry. Our parents are angry. Family members that were die-hard Trump supporters don't talk about him any longer. I received my absentee ballot request form yesterday and sent it back the same day. I will do my best to voice my support for Biden this fall, for the sake of my baby. I don't care about the enthusiasm gap or the concerns about socialism or Biden's cognitive health or any of the other bull that the Trump administration is peddling. Trump's scare ads on TV are weak and nonsensical. They reek of desperation. Trump has proven that he is a danger to society, and a danger to this country. My only hope is that there are enough fed up Americans like myself, whether left, center, or right...that will come together this fall to vote this clown out of office and send a strong message to GOP legislators that are aligned with the president.
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Old 07-25-2020, 09:59 PM
 
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So are you better off than you were four years ago?

yes.
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Old 08-08-2020, 06:27 AM
 
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Arrow Are You Better Off Than You Were Four Years Ago?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rU6PWT1rVUk

https://washingtonmonthly.com/2020/07/22/are-you-better-off-than-you-were-four-years-ago/"]https://washingtonmonthly.com/2020/0...our-years-ago/[/url]

The data on where things stood when Trump was inaugurated and where they stand today.

- By January 2017, the U.S. had successfully avoided a crisis with the H1N1 flu in 2009 and Ebola in 2014. In contrast, this country leads the world in the number of COVID-19 cases and deaths, with almost 4 million cases and over 140,000 deaths. Even Trump has acknowledged that things will get worse before they get better.

- The unemployment rate when Trump took office was 4.7 percent. Today it stands at 11.1 percent.

- The federal deficit has ballooned from 3.2 percent of GDP in 2017 to 17.9 percent of GDP today.

- By the end of 2018, the percentage of people in this country who were uninsured had risen by almost three points for a net increase of about seven million adults.
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Old 08-08-2020, 06:34 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Well no one counted on corona virus..Things were fine until then
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Old 08-08-2020, 06:35 AM
 
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Until COVID and anarchist mobs, yes. Last year was our best year ever financially. This year should be ok too.
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Old 08-08-2020, 06:36 AM
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Location: Pittsburgh
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I was before the GLOBAL pandemic. Now the world is in the tank due to the China virus.
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