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Old 06-01-2020, 07:05 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Well when cops won't quell destruction and citizens won't either, who is left? IMO frankly let it all burn if you don't want NG.
Maybe if all individuals didn't have to give up their rights to the State at birth and then get them handed back to them if they eat all of their veggies we could have property owners defending their own property, with the moral and logical high ground.

Then let's see how many thugs try to B&E the local Costco when they know individuals have rights and if violated they can defend themselves.
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Old 06-01-2020, 07:06 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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You think that, because of propaganda. There are gun owners on the left too. Meanwhile team red is actually implementing gun control.

Same deal with socialism. The biggest examples we've had of socialism are Bush's bailout of the banks/domestic automakers that resulted in the government taking ownership stake and now Trump doing the same thing with airlines.

Take your blinders off and see that your "team" is doing the very things you accuse the other "team" of. Consider getting off both teams.
Obama's bailout: socialism!

Trump's bailout: public and private sector working together in a dire situation

That's just how Team Red rolls.
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Old 06-01-2020, 07:08 PM
 
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Will you be meeting trumps federal troops at your state borders? I mean in your eyes this is the largest overreach of the federal government since the civil war, no?
Yeah, all those right-wing militia types in their pickups, wearing camo outfits from Cabela's, and boxes on ammo they got on sale at Jake's Trading Post have been invisible. Where are they? This should be "go time," right? Nah, they are all down at the waffle shop, all talk, no action. Posers.
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Old 06-01-2020, 07:12 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Yeah, all those right-wing militia types in their pickups, wearing camo outfits from Cabela's, and boxes on ammo they got on sale at Jake's Trading Post have been invisible. Where are they? This should be "go time," right? Nah, they are all down at the waffle shop, all talk, no action. Posers.
They don't have to stand outside the courthouses demanding the Covid restrictions get lifted anymore.

I say get out there tomorrow and form a ring around D.C.

Show those feds that George Wallace's spirit lives on!
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Old 06-01-2020, 07:21 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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"We Don't Need Guns - CA"
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Old 06-01-2020, 09:55 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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You think that, because of propaganda. There are gun owners on the left too. Meanwhile team red is actually implementing gun control.

Same deal with socialism. The biggest examples we've had of socialism are Bush's bailout of the banks/domestic automakers that resulted in the government taking ownership stake and now Trump doing the same thing with airlines.

Take your blinders off and see that your "team" is doing the very things you accuse the other "team" of. Consider getting off both teams.
Democrats wanting to take guns? Of Course not that's just crazy talk. Democrats are staunch defenders of the 2nd Amendment and Constitutional law.

Take your blinders off and see that your "team" is doing the very things you accuse the other "team" of.

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"If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an outright ban, picking up every one of them . . . Mr. and Mrs. America, turn 'em all in, I would have done it. I could not do that. The votes weren't here."--Diane Feinstein, (D) U.S. Senator from California

In an op-ed published in the New York Times Tuesday, the 97-year-old former Supreme Court justice argues that advocates for stricter gun control legislation should take the next step and demand the removal of the Second Amendment entirely. --John Paul Stevens (D) former Supreme Court justice

"Instead, we should ban possession of military-style semiautomatic assault weapons, we should buy back such weapons from all who choose to abide by the law, and we should criminally prosecute any who choose to defy it by keeping their weapons," he wrote. "The ban would not apply to law enforcement agencies or shooting clubs."--Eric Swalwell (D) U.S. Representative from California

“I believe…..this is my final word……I believe that I’m supporting the Constitution of the United States which does not give the right for any individual to own a handgun….”--Jan Schakowsky, (D) U.S. Representative from Illinois

“No, we’re not looking at how to control criminals … we’re talking about banning the AK-47 and semi-automatic guns.”--Howard Metzenbaum, (D) former U.S. Senator

“If a bill to ban handguns came to the house floor, I would vote for it.”--Pete Stark, (D) U.S. Representative from California

” …we need much stricter gun control, and eventually should bar the ownership of handguns”--William Clay, (D) U.S. Representative from Missouri

“Banning guns is an idea whose time has come.”--Joseph Biden, (D) Vice President of the United States and current candidate for president

“I shortly will introduce legislation banning the sale, manufacture or possession of handguns (with exceptions for law enforcement and licensed target clubs)… . It is time to act. We cannot go on like this. Ban them!”--John Chafee, (D) Former U.S. Senator from Rhode Island

“We have to start with a ban on the manufacturing and import of handguns. From there we register the guns which are currently owned, and follow that with additional bans and acquisitions of handguns and rifles with no sporting purpose.”--Major Owens, (D) U.S. Representative from New York

“My staff and I right now are working on a comprehensive gun-control bill. We don’t have all the details, but for instance, regulating the sale and purchase of bullets. Ultimately, I would like to see the manufacture and possession of handguns banned except for military and police use. But that’s the endgame. And in the meantime, there are some specific things that we can do with legislation.”--Bobby Rush, (D) U.S. Representative from Illinois

“Banning guns addresses a fundamental right of all Americans to feel safe. The National Guard fulfills the militia mentioned in the Second amendment. Citizens no longer need to protect the states or themselves.”--Dianne Feinstein, (D) U.S. Senator from California

“All of this has to be understood as part of a process leading ultimately to a treaty that will give an international body power over our domestic laws.”--Charles Pashayan, (D) U.S. Representative from California

“Confiscation could be an option…mandatory sale to the state could be an option.”--Andrew Cuomo, (D) Governor of New York

"Hell yes we're gonna' take your AR-15's" ---Beto O'Rourke (D) former U.S. Representative from Texas and Democrat candidate for president

“I don’t believe people should to be able to own guns.”-- Barack Obama (D) former President of the United States during conversation with economist and author John Lott Jr. at the University of Chicago Law School in the 1990s)

"We need a new paradigm because both sides are in the corner and they could come to the middle," Schumer said. "Those of who are pro-gun control have to admit that there is a Second Amendment right to bear arms... once we establish that there is a constitutional right to bear arms we should have the right admit, and maybe they'll be more willing to admit, that no amendment is absolute after all."--Chuck Schumer, (D) U.S. Senator from New York

"We can't just stand behind you and say we support our men and women in law enforcement community and then not have the laws on the books that help you do your job every day," he said. "And it's time as a city we have an assault weapon ban. And it's time as a state that we have an assault weapon ban. And it's time as a country that we have an assault weapon ban."--Rahm Emanuel, (D) former Mayor Chicago, Illinois

"We need to do something, at the very least, perhaps, about the high-capacity magazines that were used in this crime."--Richard Blumenthal, (D) U.S. Senator from Connecticut

"We cannot let a minority of people—and that’s what it is, it is a minority of people—hold a viewpoint that terrorizes the majority of people." On Australia's gun ban "So I think that’s worth considering," Clinton said. "I don’t know enough details to tell you how we would do it or how it would work. But certainly, the Australian example is worth considering."----Hillary Clinton (D) former U.S. Senator of New York, Secretary of State and Democrat candidate for president
George Stephanopoulos pushed Clinton twice on whether people have a right to own guns on ABC News’ "This Week": “But that's not what I asked. I said do you believe that their conclusion that an individual's right to bear arms is a constitutional right?” Clinton could only say: “If it is a constitutional right...”

"I can find nothing in the Second Amendment’s text, history, or underlying rationale that could warrant characterizing it as ‘fundamental’ insofar as it seeks to protect the keeping and bearing of arms for private self-defense purposes.”--Steven Breyer, (D) Supreme Court Justice
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Old 06-01-2020, 10:09 PM
 
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Democrats wanting to take guns? Of Course not that's just crazy talk. Democrats are staunch defenders of the 2nd Amendment and Constitutional law.

Take your blinders off and see that your "team" is doing the very things you accuse the other "team" of.
I don’t have a team. But again Republicans have delivered some. Both Trump and Reagan supported gun control.

No one is getting rid of guns. Turning over a constitutional amendment is nigh impossible in this divisive climate. It’s a nothing burger played up pretend threat, mostly just to sell more guns. Anyone who has taken an elementary level social studies course could tell you that. 2/3 majority in the legislature and 3/4 ratification by states. Never happening.
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Old 06-01-2020, 11:36 PM
 
Location: Louisiana
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I can only assume that those who don't want to stop the destruction of America approve of it.
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Old 06-02-2020, 12:09 AM
 
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Will you be meeting trumps federal troops at your state borders? I mean in your eyes this is the largest overreach of the federal government since the civil war, no?
If Democrat governors and mayors would treat looters, arsonists, and thugs as half as vigorously as they do people going outside for a walk during pandemic!! , then maybe it wouldn't have gotten to this.
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Old 06-02-2020, 03:15 AM
 
Location: Minnysoda
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Yeah, all those right-wing militia types in their pickups, wearing camo outfits from Cabela's, and boxes on ammo they got on sale at Jake's Trading Post have been invisible. Where are they? This should be "go time," right? Nah, they are all down at the waffle shop, all talk, no action. Posers.
Already told you... We had to get our uniforms on and the good guns from the armory...Even got the MRAPs fired up!!!!
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