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Old 05-21-2019, 06:49 AM
 
Location: NY
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Well of course not! What educated, professional parent raising their kid in an affluent or even middle class area would choose to punish their child and impede his education by sending him to a poor, urban school?


Imagine...................your kid comes home after a day at a poor urban school and you notice he is talking funny.
If that don't do it the sudden change in dress such as dropped pants, unlaced shoes, a distorted gait, communicating
with hand signs and the final dead give away of tattoos all over his face. Money well spent...
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Old 05-21-2019, 06:49 AM
 
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Wonder why. Maybe their parents were "racists."

Why do they need to be bused? What is at the school that they (white or black) are being bused to that isn't at the one in their area of residence?

Do not come back at me in accusation and anger, I truly want to know the answer and have wondered about it before now.
If anyone knows the answer from a different perspective, I'd like to know.
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Old 05-21-2019, 06:55 AM
 
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I experienced the busing "effect" when I was about 10 years old (although it wasn't actual busing) - and in reverse.

I lived in a straight middle-class neighborhood, one block over from where the "poorer" houses were. (Old, post WWII little ramblers.) From age 6 through 10, I went to the school assigned to my middle-class neighborhood, where I was put in the "top track" (what I suppose we call "gifted" now) and was doing very well - advanced projects and lots of day trips to various sites.

Then....boom. The county decided to "rebalance" the population, and everyone on my block had to go to the "other" school - the one with the poorer families. I started there in fifth grade, and immediately discovered the kids were doing the work I had mastered in second grade. (No exaggeration.) I was completely bored when we had to read non-challenging books, and what they did - just about the only thing they did - was have the junior high school deliver books for me to read while my classmates read their "own" books.

Story continues....I was in that district for the next four years, wasting time, until my parents moved to a "trade-up" house that put us back into the original school district. There, I reunited with my elementary school friends - we were now all entering 9th grade at the high school - and I was SO BEHIND. Fortunately, my parents made the move while I still could catch up with my peers and go on to a competitive college.

P.S. The "poorer" school district wasn't just behind academically - a large number of the kids were rough and anti-Semitic. I had LOTS of negative anti-Semitic slurs that I had never heard until then, and that is a big reason why my parents moved.
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Old 05-21-2019, 06:57 AM
 
Location: Pyongjang
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Government should not be involved in education whatsoever.
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Old 05-21-2019, 06:59 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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You should go to the school district you live in.

Bernie is basically saying the gov schools suck, and/or that minorities suck and need whites to even start to look half way successful.

Why would any minority vote for someone who insults them day after day is beyond me.
School rankings are based primarily on student performance.

And if most of the kids where you live suck, then what?

The student populations of the best and worst performing schools could be swapped. The scores of the former best performing school would decline and vice- versa.

Schools with a heavier enrollment of Asian populations tend to lift the scores/ ranks of the entire school. Is this a genetic thing or do more Asian families have higher expectations of their children and emphasis on performance than non Asian?
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Old 05-21-2019, 07:02 AM
 
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School rankings are based primarily on student performance.

And if most of the kids where you live suck, then what?

The student populations of the best and worst performing schools could be swapped. The scores of the former best performing school would decline and vice- versa.

Schools with a heavier enrollment of Asian populations tend to lift the scores/ ranks of the entire school. Is this a genetic thing or do more Asian families have higher expectations of their children and emphasis on performance than non Asian?

You never really see status driven Asians much when they're not at work or school. Why? Because they're status driven. Everything else besides work or study is for lazy Americans.
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Old 05-21-2019, 07:03 AM
 
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School rankings are based primarily on student performance.

And if most of the kids where you live suck, then what?

The student populations of the best and worst performing schools could be swapped. The scores of the former best performing school would decline and vice- versa.

Schools with a heavier enrollment of Asian populations tend to lift the scores/ ranks of the entire school. Is this a genetic thing or do more Asian families have higher expectations of their children and emphasis on performance than non Asian?
Probably a bit of both.
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Old 05-21-2019, 07:03 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Horrible idea. San Diego does it and the kids can't participate in any after school activities because most of the parents either can't or don't drive. It also leads to schools closing in the districts the kids are being bused from. Last, what an expensive "solution". Hundreds of low mpg buses heading South in the morning clogging our streets and highways.

I wouldn't put our kids in the schools a few blocks from us because they are mostly ESL learners all bused in from the border area. So, we are forced to use the same option and choice our kids into a different neighborhood but we don't qualify for busing as we make too much. So, the kids in the wealthy areas get put into private schools and then the schools in the less well off areas close. It's a stupid shell game and the money used for all of this should simply have been put into the district that needed it to begin with.
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Old 05-21-2019, 07:04 AM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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People self segregate from PTSD like symptoms, or full blown PTSD. African americans are in a perpetual PTSD state. Their neighborhood is like a safe space away from a society where they're treated as foreign.
this is a joke - right?
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Old 05-21-2019, 07:07 AM
 
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Government should not be involved in education whatsoever.
I agree. This is where the problem started in the first place.
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