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View Poll Results: Are you happy with Trump’s deal to reopen the Federal government for 3 weeks?
I’m happy with the deal 41 36.61%
It’s ok 50 44.64%
I’m unhappy with this deal 21 18.75%
Voters: 112. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-24-2019, 02:52 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Dane_in_LA View Post
You misspelled "explained away". Trump's campaign published a paper on how to get Mexico to pay a lump sum for the wall. Doubt me? Here you go, right from the source:

https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/Pay_for_the_Wall.pdf




It was only after Mexico flipped him the bird that the narrative suddenly flipped to "The wall will pay for itself" - which is, incidentally, substantially different from Mexico paying for it.

Not happy yet? Have another:

https://web.archive.org/web/20150816...gration-reform



You're either lying or you've been lied to.
Ouch!

All those hard facts you dropped had to have been painful for that poster!

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Old 01-24-2019, 02:53 PM
 
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I don't think it will. Eventually, these unpaid workers are going to stop coming to work. The country will grind to a halt without air traffic controllers and the TSA. And Lil' Donnie, who Americans blame for the shutdown by wide margins, will be forced to cave--or the worthless Republican party will be forced to.

Let's hope this happens before some serious incident occurs that costs lives. That would really put a nail in his, and the GOP's, coffin.
Of course, you deliberately ignore the role the dems you worship are playing in all of this. They say actions speak louder than words. You are too blinded by your worship of dems to see that dems care more about illegal aliens than they do about American citizens.
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Old 01-24-2019, 02:54 PM
 
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No to opening the government with no wall. The other GOP Presidents might have had stupid stamped on their forehead but we are in a whole different place now.
Trump is not the boss of the House of Representatives. The House controls the purse strings. It's not a whole different place. It's the same place it's always been. Trump just thought he could call all the shots. He was mistaken.
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Old 01-24-2019, 02:54 PM
 
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Trump thinks he is so smart and that no one in congress would think a "down payment" is not "funding."

Trump is an idiot!



https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...h-down-payment
So...you're saying that Trump should only hold his ground and get the whole amount of the funding?

Or are you whining because he very rightly so doesn't trust the dems to keep their word?
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Old 01-24-2019, 02:55 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Who cares? Why nitpick? Oh...I know! You have no valid response so you deflect.

Okay, let trump have a chain link fence.
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Old 01-24-2019, 02:56 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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So...you're saying that Trump should only hold his ground and get the whole amount of the funding?

Or are you whining because he very rightly so doesn't trust the dems to keep their word?
It is trump who does not keep his word. Let trump get his down payment from Mexico.
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Old 01-24-2019, 02:57 PM
 
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You just described Pelosi’s stance. Trump is open to negotiate to get something he ran and won the presidency on. Pelosi is too afraid to do what’s right and engage in a discussion where both sides can get something they want.
I couldn't rep you again but --- well said

Dems are too blind to see that their idols, Chuck and Nancy, are not blameless in all of this.
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Old 01-24-2019, 03:04 PM
 
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Squawk, squawk! Polly wanna cracker?
So, "Polly" wants a cracker. Well, "Polly", we'll give you a cracker if you^^^^spot spouting nonsense. It's been explained to you over and over again, "Polly", that walls do work. The wall that Bill Clinton (You know, Hillary's husband---the same Hillary you voted for president in 2016) had a wall built on the San Diego/Tijuana border has drastically cut down on crime and illegal crossings. The BP wants a barrier on the border, and you know better than they do, "Polly"?
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Old 01-24-2019, 03:05 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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And the vast majority who oppose the wall are lefty liberals who haven't bothered to educate themselves on the effectiveness of the good walls. Many hire illegal aliens for profit, are bleeding heart liberals without a brain in their heads or have ethnic ties to illegal aliens so of course they don't want a wall to stop the flow of illegal aliens into our country. The Democrat congress critters are pandering to ethnocentric Hispanics who want the flow of their illegal amigos to keep coming in exchange for their votes and they also want to make future Democrats out of these illegal aliens. Their anti-American opinions mean nothing! Pelosi and Schumer are the ones throwing childish temper tantrums by not negotiating in good faith with Trump and putting illegal aliens above the safety and security of our own citizens.
70% of Americans are lefty liberals? Huh. Utopia arrived, and I missed it.
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Old 01-24-2019, 03:06 PM
 
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I couldn't rep you again but --- well said

Dems are too blind to see that their idols, Chuck and Nancy, are not blameless in all of this.
Negotiation requires both sides be willing to give up things. What is Trump willing to give up?
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