*****Trump's gov't SHUTDOWN***** MERGED (ideologies, Congress, illegal aliens, polls)

[Winter_Sucks]

Originally Posted by BobNJ1960

Trump courteously offered. Pelosi turned her nose up at it.

Let the Shutdown roll.

Happy 30th Shutdown Day to all.

And let trump’s numbers keep falling. We’ve got a senate and White House to win back.

[BobNJ1960]

Originally Posted by ColdAilment

There was nothing courteous about the offer. .

Your govt employee friends applauding Nancy, too, like you?

[BobNJ1960]

Originally Posted by Winter_Sucks

And let trump’s numbers keep falling. We’ve got a senate and White House to win back.

Dems lost Senate seats in both 2016 and 2018.

[chucksnee]

Originally Posted by Sharpydove

My, my...just like Trump said the same nonsense, you are both wrong and misinformed. Here in the Midwest are thousands and thousands of federal employees who supported him.
Notice I said supported, as in past tense.
He has miscalculated and lost their votes.

I'm sure you can back this up...




But in the mean time, what do you fell about these families, it did not affect you, do you care?


Victims of Illegal Aliens Memorial

[Winter_Sucks]

Originally Posted by BobNJ1960

Dems lost Senate seats in both 2016 and 2018.

I said win back. Please try to keep up. How about the house, what happened to that majority?

[BobNJ1960]

Originally Posted by Winter_Sucks

I said win back. Please try to keep up. How about the house, what happened to that majority?

Dems did win roughly the median quantity of seats flipped the last 5 times, one party controlled all 3.

But not winning 2 of 3 prevents the 3rd from getting what it wants done. Shutdown is proof of the conservative firewall.

[trobesmom]

Originally Posted by BobNJ1960

Polls do not matter. This is a Constitutional Republic, not a direct democracy Thank God. We elect officials to represent us, and 30 states with 304 EC votes, elected POTUS 45 Donald J. Trump. McConnell, like Pelosi, plus 533 others in House & Senate were also duly elected.

We do not conduct govt business via polling data.

All politicians conduct business according to polling data. You better believe they listen to what the public has to say.

[trobesmom]

Originally Posted by BobNJ1960

Perhaps, but at most, one year. SC will shoot down the lower court's invalid ruling, and when they do, no more bargaining for the Dreamers.

Just:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8Tiz6INF7I

That may be true. But I didn't say anything about the SC. The Dems want a path to citizenship for them. Trump offering three years' protection was not accurate since they already have protection for one of those years through the courts.

[chucksnee]

Originally Posted by Winter_Sucks

And let trump’s numbers keep falling. We’ve got a senate and White House to win back.

Granted, you got the house, but your president gained in the senate.....so lets see what happens in 2020.....

[BobNJ1960]

Originally Posted by trobesmom

That may be true. But I didn't say anything about the SC. I said right now Dreamers have protection for a year. Do you disagree?

In all likelihood, close to it. Oct 19 SC session is not set yet.

However, Trump offered them 2 additional years. I am happy NP turned it down, as it was too generous an offer IMO.