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I see mainly Republicans And Democrats voted in the White House but why not Independent?
Especially try the Independent Party for once?
The amount of money and resources required to get elected forces people into political parties as a pseudo-coalition, which allows them to pool their money/resources together to effectively compete.
All elections are coalitions, whether first-past-the-post or parliamentary. And regardless of the system, the largest party will always have an outsized influence on the government.
On top of this, most people don't know enough about all the people on any given ballot, so they tend to just vote for "their party" all the way down the ballot.
The mechanisms of democracy force into existence political parties, usually narrowing over time to just two relevant parties. Though in times of crisis, other parties might come along, who then merely displace the existing parties by forming new coalitions.
America is working great. We already have two pro-business, two-globalist parties, who get all their money from corporations and other special-interests. And we are doing better than almost every country on the planet. Why do you want to rock the boat?
The two- party system won’t allow it, look what Hillary did to Bernie during the last election. This is one reason why you’ll never see a switch to the popular vote. What Reds stated above and not switching to the popular vote is why your vote doesn’t and never will count.
This is also why these threads never get any real traction.
The two- party system won’t allow it, look what Hillary did to Bernie during the last election. This is one reason why you’ll never see a switch to the popular vote. What Reds stated above and not switching to the popular vote is why your vote doesn’t and never will count.
Even if you switched to a "popular vote", it wouldn't change anything. And even if you could abolish the two-party system(I assume for a parliamentary system), it wouldn't change anything.
Other countries have parliamentary systems and popular voting, it hasn't increased the "power of the people" or led to political parties which are independent of corporate control. Every government on Earth is controlled by money. And that is how it should be.
The "people" are easily manipulated by corporate media companies who exist to make money, and who get their money from other corporations. The people are just pawns in their game. Stop believing you matter.
Even if you switched to a "popular vote", it wouldn't change anything. And even if you could abolish the two-party system(I assume for a parliamentary system), it wouldn't change anything.
Other countries have parliamentary systems and popular voting, it hasn't increased the "power of the people" or led to political parties which are independent of corporate control. Every government on Earth is controlled by money. And that is how it should be.
The "people" are easily manipulated by corporate media companies who exist to make money, and who get their money from other corporations. The people are just pawns in their game. Stop believing you matter.
Maybe it would but seeing that it won’t happen we’ll never know. However, there is a better chance of someone like Bernie being elected into office. Yes, there will always be corruption in politics we cannot change that but maybe just maybe having someone in office from a third party might help weed some of that out.
We’ve got to at least try something different.
Maybe.
Maybe it would but seeing that it won’t happen we’ll never know. However, there is a better chance of someone like Bernie being elected into office. Yes, there will always be corruption in politics we cannot change that but maybe just maybe having someone in office from a third party might help weed some of that out.
We’ve got to at least try something different.
Maybe.
Bentbow just posted this in another thread. France has a parliamentary system. Do you think their government works better than ours?
Everything people think and believe is being manipulated by those who are in positions to influence.
The reason people in America don't think exactly the same way as people in France. And the reason people in France don't think exactly the same way as people in Sweden, is because the people in positions of power/influence aren't the same from one country to the next.
And the reason people in Texas don't think exactly like people in California is again the result of what they are taught from a young age. Likewise in Russia, China, etc.
All governments are being manipulated by propaganda, and the people can always be dragged along, or turned against each other. The money could easily start a Civil-War if they wanted to, but why would they want to? They want to rule the country, they don't want to destroy the country.
The money would have stopped Bernie, because the money hates Bernie. Even if he had gotten elected in some miracle, the money would have just used its attack dogs on the right to make right-wingers even crazier than they were when Obama got elected, and they would have blocked Bernie from doing anything the corporations didn't want.
Are you people still trying to "win"? You lost a long time ago. What must happen, will happen. And the only thing that must happen, is economic-growth.
Everything people think and believe is being manipulated by those who are in positions to influence.
The reason people in America don't think exactly the same way as people in France. And the reason people in France don't think exactly the same way as people in Sweden, is because the people in positions of power/influence aren't the same from one country to the next.
And the reason people in Texas don't think exactly like people in California is again the result of what they are taught from a young age. Likewise in Russia, China, etc.
All governments are being manipulated by propaganda, and the people can always be dragged along, or turned against each other. The money could easily start a Civil-War if they wanted to, but why would they want to? They want to rule the country, they don't want to destroy the country.
The money would have stopped Bernie, because the money hates Bernie. Even if he had gotten elected in some miracle, the money would have just used its attack dogs on the right to make right-wingers even crazier than they were when Obama got elected, and they would have blocked Bernie from doing anything the corporations didn't want.
Are you people still trying to "win"? You lost a long time ago. What must happen, will happen. And the only thing that must happen, is economic-growth.
You people?
Then we’re doomed to keep repeating what we’re doing. Which is nothing because we’re not moving forward or backwards. We are at a standstill.
It's actually a hybrid. France also has a direct elected President. Currently this position is held by Macron. He holds many powers not found in a true parliamentary Westminster system.
I see mainly Republicans And Democrats voted in the White House but why not Independent?
Especially try the Independent Party for once?
Independent isn't a party. I'm an Independent and align with the Libertarian Party. I will vote my conscience, not for a letter.
Most people who call themselves "Independent" haven't changed parties, they only claim it because it's in vogue to do so.
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Originally Posted by reed067
Maybe it would but seeing that it won’t happen we’ll never know. However, there is a better chance of someone like Bernie being elected into office. Yes, there will always be corruption in politics we cannot change that but maybe just maybe having someone in office from a third party might help weed some of that out.
We’ve got to at least try something different.
Maybe.
Bernie votes 100% with the Democrats. He's a Socialist Democrat. Nothing would change with him as President.
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