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Old 11-09-2018, 04:30 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Times are tough for many single people with the money that is confiscated for taxes that go to poor families welfare's, times are tough for many seniors who have to pay taxes on Social Security for poor families on welfare, times are tough for college students who have lots of student debt because the so much of the states general fund is spent on poor families welfare programs.

Times are very easy for poor families with children who get financial windfall that is promised just for irresponsible behavior.
That's harsh, but it's true. The US is financially incentivizing irresponsibility, so guess what we get?
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Old 11-09-2018, 04:40 AM
 
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It's an acclamation push to increase the proportion of government family.
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Old 11-09-2018, 04:51 AM
 
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It's an acclamation push to increase the proportion of government family.
The poverty pimps earn a very comfortable living off of it, so they do everything they can to expand it.

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"Obviously, a lot of anti-poverty money is going to people who are not poor. There are whole classes of people who live off the poor — or rather, off the vast sums of money that are poured out from the public treasury and private philanthropy, in hopes of helping the poor.

Those who intercept the money intended for the poor have been aptly called “poverty pimps.” The poor are a commodity to these people, who include not only local politicians, community activists and small-time hustlers, but also people with impressive titles and academic credentials, who likewise milk the larger society, in the name of the poor."
Ode to the Poverty Pimps
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Old 11-09-2018, 05:19 AM
 
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According to the left we need to let more people crash the border and get that welfare.
I'd love to see stats on who is on welfare.

Do those exist?

My experience, undocumented families do not want to be on welfare because they don't like to be on record.

My experience, they don't even like to have bank accounts, credit cards.

They deal with cash.

One of the biggest 'struggles' in some of the elementary schools I have been in are the families that won't apply for free lunch for the kids. The teachers know they would qualify and YES...even when the parents are undocumented and the kids are anchor babies....the parents will not apply for free lunch program because they don't want the govt. to have a 'record'.

At our church -- they wouldn't even become official 'parishioners because they feared that would be used to track them down.

They would sign their kids up for the lessons required by the Catholic church but they would not full on 'join' the church.

They always paid cash -- no checks, no credit cards.

I do appreciate that some states -- California for example - where this may not be the same trend...but I'm not sure the 'illegal resident in Kansas is running down to the welfare office to collect a few bucks.
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Old 11-09-2018, 05:25 AM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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Times are tough for many single people with the money that is confiscated for taxes that go to poor families welfare's, times are tough for many seniors who have to pay taxes on Social Security for poor families on welfare, times are tough for college students who have lots of student debt because the so much of the states general fund is spent on poor families welfare programs.

Times are very easy for poor families with children who get financial windfall that is promised just for irresponsible behavior.
Could be the dumbest post yet.
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Old 11-09-2018, 05:26 AM
 
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Simply print more money and tax the rich! No problems.
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Old 11-09-2018, 05:28 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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That's harsh, but it's true. The US is financially incentivizing irresponsibility, so guess what we get?
This year, the Child Tax Credit increased from $1000 to $2000, per qualifying child.

( I oppose all credits/ deductions and prefer a flat tax)

Nothing factual supports people have more children they can’t afford for welfare benefits.

The poorest countries with zero social welfare tend to have the highest fertility rates.

Wealthy countries with the richest social welfare tend to have the lowest fertility rates.
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Old 11-09-2018, 05:37 AM
 
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I'd love to see stats on who is on welfare.

Do those exist?
Yes.

Cites both the Maxwell School of Citizenship and Public Affairs (syracuse.edu) and NPR as sources:
Are Welfare Recipients Mostly Republican? Or Democrat?

And delving a little deeper into demographics (political party affiliation, race, etc.) by examining Food Stamp usage:
Pew Research: The Demographics and Politics of Food Stamp Recipients
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Old 11-09-2018, 05:40 AM
 
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The decline of the family and morals in this country is like a nuclear bomb hit us and we just don’t know it.
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Old 11-09-2018, 05:45 AM
 
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This year, the Child Tax Credit increased from $1000 to $2000, per qualifying child.

( I oppose all credits/ deductions and prefer a flat tax)

Nothing factual supports people have more children they can’t afford for welfare benefits.
Not true. The US Census indicates that women receiving public assistance have a birth rate 3 times higher than women (with or without partners) who are self-supporting. We already know there are 14,000+ free or low-cost sliding fee scale publicly-funded (local, state, and/or federal) family planning clinics located throughout the US. So, access to contraception isn't the problem.
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