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Old 08-23-2018, 10:52 AM
 
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Nice job of conveniently overlooking those who hire illegals. the reason they come in the first place. Funny it seems Republicans don't seem to want to make an issue of those who profit from cheap illegal labor.
lol..The R's tried to make e-verify mandatory and the Dems blocked it multiple times
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Old 08-23-2018, 05:45 PM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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lol..The R's tried to make e-verify mandatory and the Dems blocked it multiple times
What a lie.

Republicans in big AG states refuse to even consider it.
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Old 08-23-2018, 06:16 PM
 
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Good point. Dog-wagging is a possibility. Or Iran. Or North Korea. I did think his sudden criticism of Venezuela was very odd.

It's very dangerous to have a draft-doger with no experience of war, nor any real knowledge via history, dreaming that war is a glorious enterprise which will promote his popularity.
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Old 08-23-2018, 08:23 PM
 
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This isn’t out of the question or unrealistic. After watching some Fox News vids over the last few months with Venezuela clearly deteriorating by the day, I’m starting to realize that there IS a consensus of fairly considerable size that would suppprt such a move. Dubya already proved that a pretext can be easily conjured up for an invasion that Americans will get behind.

Trump is under tremendous heat, and an intervention would definitely bury any possible headline from Mueller. Congressional Republicans are under even more heat, so why would they oppose it?

Fox’s Venezuela coverage is all about a pretext for war if you listen well enough. They keep screaming about socialism, dictatorship, oil, and how this is a humanitarian disaster. Also mentioned is how the average Venezuelan has lost 25 lbs from starvation. I don’t buy it.

This is beginning to sound like the runup to intervening...and I damn sure hope I’m wrong. We have no pressing national interests in Venezuela. None.
Any take-down of a local State, say out to Iran, that is not friendly to us and has reason to look Eastward is in our national interest. From a strict geopolitical perspective. That's not really debatable.
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Old 08-23-2018, 10:08 PM
 
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What a lie.

Republicans in big AG states refuse to even consider it.
First one of you to source your claim wins. go.

I have to ask though, there aren't many states that are more "big ag" than Iowa and the guy that murdered the college student there had to go through a verification process.

So, something smells funny from this post.
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Old 08-23-2018, 10:11 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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Trumps position has been anti-war, before and after election, and done much to avoid war which has worked out nicely so far. I do see many others in gov. interested in starting a new war somewhere. They are ever present no matter the party in power. Trump isn't among them.
Yea, right, that's why neocon John Bolton is his right hand man, and Trump continues to threaten Iran, which makes Bolton slobber.

When Trump starts our next war it would most likely be with Iran. Venezuela is a no win situation for the U.S., but Iran is boxed in by Iraq and Afghanistan, so U.S. assets are in place already.

I'm sure that Trump is looking for an opening in Venezuela, especially if his mouthpiece at Fox is making noise about it (I wouldn't know as I don't watch propaganda) but there is not much of an opening there.
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Old 08-23-2018, 10:57 PM
 
Location: north central Ohio
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He might. Right now he's using a dead college student to wag the dog.

EXACTLY......if not Venezuela, then Iran!
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Old 08-23-2018, 11:02 PM
 
Location: north central Ohio
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Good point. Dog-wagging is a possibility. Or Iran. Or North Korea. I did think his sudden criticism of Venezuela was very odd.

It's very dangerous to have a draft-doger with no experience of war, nor any real knowledge via promote history, dreaming that war is a glorious enterprise which willhis popularity.


A-M-E-N!
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Old 08-23-2018, 11:09 PM
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Location: Middle Tennessee
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EXACTLY......if not Venezuela, then Iran!
I haven't checked lately, but is there anything going on in Grenada? That seemed to go well the first time, so why not try a repeat? Less things to go wrong when compared to Venezuela or Iran.
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Old 08-23-2018, 11:14 PM
 
Location: north central Ohio
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Yeah? Did this poor girl's murder happen in a 'sanctuary' city?


And when will we hear him talk about the murderer's Republican employer?


As I said - Trump plans on riding this dead girl's body all the way to mid-terms.

EXACTLY...….we will never hear any Republican talk about their greedy A** Republican corporate owners being the ones who hire coyotes to bring in these illegals to work on their CORPORATE farms or in their meat-packing plants, ect, ect, ect! Why do they never even get prosecuted,fined/jailed?

FREAKIN HYPOCRITES....Republicans are the very ones responsible for all the illegals here, then they make a show of deporting them, by inhumanely taking babies and toddlers,(and most likely selling them to traffickers)! Like how they kidnapped the children of the Indians!
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