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Old 07-24-2018, 12:33 PM
 
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Ok seriously, I didn't post the OP in order to discuss police shootings. Apples and oranges.


My question is, does that decision mean that people in the 9th Circuit area (California, Nevada, Hawaii, Oregon, Washington among others) now can "open carry" with no restrictions?
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Old 07-24-2018, 12:35 PM
 
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Ok seriously, I didn't post the OP in order to discuss police shootings. Apples and oranges.

My question is, does that decision mean that people in the 9th Circuit area (California, Nevada, Hawaii, Oregon, Washington among others) now can "open carry" with no restrictions?
They should have always been able to, but for unconstitutional laws, so I guess the answer is "yes?"
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Old 07-24-2018, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Falls Church, Fairfax County
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My question is, does that decision mean that people in the 9th Circuit area (California, Nevada, Hawaii, Oregon, Washington among others) now can "open carry" with no restrictions?
I do not think so right now. I do find it interesting that this seems like it will affect California which is one of the more restrictive states. Will force a Supreme Court decision or maybe even a Constitutional Amendment?
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Old 07-24-2018, 12:38 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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LOL!




Didn't you guys know?
The 16th amendment changed the Bill of Rights, into the ledger of privileges.
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Old 07-24-2018, 12:40 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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or maybe even a Constitutional Amendment?
Amend it how? It already says you can carry a gun without restriction.
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Old 07-24-2018, 12:41 PM
 
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I do not think so right now. I do find it interesting that this seems like it will affect California which is one of the more restrictive states. Will force a Supreme Court decision or maybe even a Constitutional Amendment?
You can forget a Constitutional Amendment (seriously, the country is way too divided to be able to marshal two-thirds in both House and Senate followed by 38 states ratifying it - for literally anything. Even for fluffy kittens.)


If there is an appeal of the decision, to the Supreme Court, does that mean it is not in force yet?
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Old 07-24-2018, 12:43 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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If there is an appeal of the decision, to the Supreme Court, does that mean it is not in force yet?
It is not nationwide yet, as long as other courts keep pretending the Constitution allows restriction of the right to keep and bear arms.
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Old 07-24-2018, 12:44 PM
 
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I do not think so right now. I do find it interesting that this seems like it will affect California which is one of the more restrictive states. Will force a Supreme Court decision or maybe even a Constitutional Amendment?
There are three amendments that already cover this.

One says just because the right isn't listed in the Constitution doesn't mean the people don't have it. Another says if the government has not been given enumerated power over something by the Constitution, then they have no freaking power over that thing. And finally, another amendment says the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed...just in case the other two aforementioned amendments were somehow unclear.
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Old 07-24-2018, 12:46 PM
 
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You can forget a Constitutional Amendment (seriously, the country is way too divided to be able to marshal two-thirds in both House and Senate followed by 38 states ratifying it - for literally anything. Even for fluffy kittens.)


If there is an appeal of the decision, to the Supreme Court, does that mean it is not in force yet?
Rarely does the Supreme Court take a case unless there is a counter ruling. Will another court rule otherwise? The ruling stays in place unless the Supreme Court puts a hold on it.
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Old 07-24-2018, 12:52 PM
 
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With all that being said I am for a responsible adult that has been trained in the safe use and handling of a firearm to openly carry that firearm.
What other training do you need besides the 4 rules?


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