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Haaar! Every single modern leader who attempted to re-engage that little island just off your gulf coast got vilified in no uncertain terms by all of you and here your resident idiot, whose already under a cloud of suspicion for collusion goes off and meets with your de-rigueur enemy of over 70 years and you buffoons are okie dokie with "Donny's gonna bring home the bacon".
It'll be his bacon and no one else's; that you can take to the bank. He'll be getting his marching orders as we write on here.
There are some very ugly rumors out there about the supposed content of a tape which is in Russian hands - rumors involving underage girls - and/or boys - and brutally violent sexual assault, possibly to unintended death of the victim.
Not saying this is what it is - but there are rumors. Lots of rumors.
For the sake of those children as well as for our country, I hope there is nothing to this.
As for what is likely, Putin will try to get Trump to drop the sanctions and undo the Magnitsky Act, and accept Russia's theft of Crimea. Trump is easily flattered and already thinks Putin is his best buddy, a great leader, and a good guy. All Putin has to do is agree to a new Trump Tower Moscow - and keeping that very "private" tape private - and Trump will crumble like a crushed pysanka egg and give him anything he asks.
Ukraine is screwed, but being Ukraine, will fight all the harder, this time with more support from the still-uncorrupted western allies. No thanks to Trump, of course.
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TDS strikes again. It literally doesn't matter what Trump does or doesn't do liberals will do whatever it takes to find some way to be outraged about what did/didn't/might/could have happened.
To the posters who answered "Trump gives up something very important to balance of power in Europe" I am curious why you think the EU can't stand on its own against Russia.
The EU has more than one country with nuclear weapons.
The EU has 511 million people with a GDP of $16.5 Trillion.
Russia has 147 million people with a GDP of $1.7 Trillion.
The USA has 323 million people with a GDP of $19.4 Trillion.
Who needs help from who again?
Why does the EU with 4 times as many people and 10 times the economy need protection from the Russian boogeyman?
Why must the US keep spending so much money and keep so many soldiers stationed since the end of WWII. I am fine with keeping our traditional alliances. But will Russia invade a solid EU with NATO still in place? Doubtful.
Why keep feeding the industrial-military complex?
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What can the world, or any nation in it, hope for if no turning is found on this dread road?
The worst to be feared and the best to be expected can be simply stated.
The worst is atomic war.
The best would be this: a life of perpetual fear and tension; a burden of arms draining the wealthand the labor of all peoples; a wasting of strength that defies the American system or the Soviet system or any system to achieve true abundance and happiness for the peoples of this earth.
Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed.
This world in arms in not spending money alone.
It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children.
The cost of one modern heavy bomber is this: a modern brick school in more than 30 cities.
It is two electric power plants, each serving a town of 60,000 population.
It is two fine, fully equipped hospitals.
It is some 50 miles of concrete highway.
We pay for a single fighter with a half million bushels of wheat.
We pay for a single destroyer with new homes that could have housed more than 8,000 people.
This, I repeat, is the best way of life to be found on the road the world has been taking.
This is not a way of life at all, in any true sense. Under the cloud of threatening war, it is humanity hanging from a cross of iron.
Putin plays a long, very long game, and Ukraine was one of the templates. It worked well enough there to win him occupation of Eastern Ukraine and Crimea, plus the weakening of Ukraine's infrastructure and utilities - plus over 10,000 civilian deaths. Russia is still fighting on Ukraine's sovereign territory though Ukraine's faulty democracy survived (now watch the pro-Putinites here come out and claim Ukraine deserved it).
After all, not only are power and control involved, but there's also lots of big money to be made that way. Just ask Paul Manafort and his Russian oligarch friends.
Those of you who are poo-pooing the danger represented by Putin's Russia seem to be unaware or perhaps unconcerned that that same deadly anti-democratic template has also been put to use in the UK, very abhorrently and very recently, with poison being added to the murky brew of online political interference and blatant trolling on Facebook, Twitter, and other Internet sites. As was previously done, particularly to Putin's political opponents and to reporters, in Russia itself.
"But Putin is an honourable man..." sayeth Donald Trump. Trouble is, Trump is no Mark Antony - and he believes it.
Putin got obama elected? You better run and tell mueller...her needs your help, because he is having problems....
Exactly....yet obama had dinner with him....
Reading comprehension issues, yet again. The poster to whom you responded clearly stated that "Putin did NOT get Obama elected...".
Glad Obama didn't drink the tea when he dined with Putin, long before Putin's armies invaded Ukraine and occupied Crimea.
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