If Trump Made a Deal With Putin to Destabilize NATO and Return Putin to G7, Would He Behave Any Differently Than He Has?

[Brave New World]

US intelligence agencies are all wrong as is Robert Mueller, and Russia had no reason to meddle, indeed Mr Putin is a lovely man said Mr Trump.

Russia has now put the photographs and other evidence back in the safe and will be launching more Pro-Trump disinformation across the internet.

Seriously though, your own American Intelligence Agencies, FBI and investigators are all wrong, and Putin is right - really??.

Trump also claims it's the Mueller probe that has 'driven a wedge' between US and Russia, and says Putin calls it a 'shame'.

So it wasn't the invasions of Georgia and Crimea and the meddling in Ukraine or the shooting down of flight MH-17 by a Russian Missile System or the poisoning and murders in Britain or the constant murders of Putins opponents and jounrnalists or the corruption and poor human rights in Russia or indeed Russian election meddling and cyber warfare or indeed Russian bombing and possible involvement in gassng civilians in Syria. The poor relations with Russia are just the result of Bob Muellers investigation in to Trump.

[reed067]

After the summit you even if you voted for Trump you have to ask yourself, what the hell is Trump up too? The fact that Trump goes on the offensive is proof that something is right with all of this.

[Old Gringo]

Originally Posted by Seacove

What Trump has done to the relationships we have with our allies, pulled us from agreements, treated our allies with hostility and implemented tariffs on them in the name of "national security" has been deeply concerning. But now, he calls for Putin to be returned to the G7 after Putin was removed for invading Crimea. Trump is being investigated for a number of interactions with Russia and now this? Trump pulls us further away from our allies every single day. Every day the relationships get worse and now he thinks Putin needs to be welcomed back into G7?

"The last twenty four hours of attacks on our closest allies capped by President Trump’s seemingly out of the blue demand to bring Russia back into the G-7 (making it again the G-8 which it was for most of the post-Cold War era until Russia was expelled over the annexation of Crimea) simply brings the matter into a newly sharp relief. If candidate Trump and President Putin had made a corrupt bargain which obligated President Trump to destabilize all U.S. security and trade alliances (especially NATO, which has been Russia’s primary strategic goal for 70 years) and advance the strategic interests of Russia, there’s really nothing more remotely realistic he could have done to accomplish that than what he has in fact done."

We’ve Got a Problem. A Big Problem.
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog...-a-big-problem

Your crystal ball has proven to be very accurate.

There are no mysteries with tRump.

[carterstamp]

Considering the narcissist that Trump is, I don't think he would act any differently. It will always be "all about him".

One still wonders, just what Putin has on Trump.

[boneyard1962]

Originally Posted by Wayland Woman

If he declared we all have to learn to speak Russian is fan club would buy a software program and start learning to count in Russian. What he is doing to our allies is disgusting.

What is he doing that is disgusting? I detest Trump, borderline hate him. But.....
Calling out member nations for being mooches? NATO has served Germany's best interests for decades. Germany was squarely in the USSR's sights and were it not for the USA and NATO there would not have been an East and West Germany... Germany has been rather cheap with its contributions.

Trumps mouth is his greatest liability. Not because what he says is always wrong, but because it always said wrong.

NATO is that family that mooches off the rich uncle.
So what did he do to them? Has he cut any of them off? Has he said no more free money for you? I wish he would. We have quite a few so-called allies that are beyond worthless.

We simply can't afford to be the world's police force.