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Old 06-08-2018, 06:47 AM
 
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Your source says utility rates will cut by $3 billion dollars (but Trumps tax cuts are worth $2.3 trillion dollars.)
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/w...t-gop-tax-cuts

Trump's tax cuts gave the richest 1% of Americans 53% of the tax cuts (so the richest 1% get $1 trillion dollars in tax cuts.)
https://www.forbes.com/sites/janetno.../#44e71f201099

The richest 1% got $1 trillion dollars in tax cuts and they give everyday Americans $3 billion dollars, and you cheer this?

How about giving regular Americans $1 trillion dollars in tax cuts, and then when regular Americans spend the money the richest 1% will get much of it when we buy their products?


And $3 billion dollars is a small single crumb compared to $1 trillion dollars. For example, Donald Trumps kids get $2.8 billion dollars from Trumps tax cuts.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/th...ids-2017-09-28
You can't cut federal income taxes on people who don't pay taxes. The people who pay the most will naturally receive the biggest breaks. Commonsense really.

I've paid fairly close attention to this topic and calculated my personal cost and savings. For me it amounts to about $ 50.00 per month or $ 600.00 per year. Some will get less and some will get more. I'm not upset about it.
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Old 06-08-2018, 07:28 AM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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You can't cut federal income taxes on people who don't pay taxes.
You can give them Earned Income Tax credits.

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The people who pay the most will naturally receive the biggest breaks. Commonsense really.
Trumps tax cuts gave the richest 0.1% of Americans 30% of the tax cuts (about $500 billion dollars.)

Do you believe billionaires like Bill Gates and Warren Buffet needed a tax cut?
Do you believe billionaires like Bill Gates needed money to buy something they want or start a new business?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/janetno.../#7ba235771099

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I've paid fairly close attention to this topic and calculated my personal cost and savings. For me it amounts to about $ 50.00 per month or $ 600.00 per year. Some will get less and some will get more. I'm not upset about it.
The bottom 80% of Americans got about 30% of Trumps tax cuts. And if the richest 0.1% of Americans didn't get a tax cut then your tax cut would be $1,200 a year.
https://www.cbpp.org/research/federa...nal-priorities

Would you rather give billionaires tax cuts and get yourself a $600 tax cut, or would you rather not give billionaires a tax cut and get yourself a $1,200 tax cut?

(And did billionaires like Bill Gates even need a tax cut?)

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Old 06-08-2018, 07:35 AM
 
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“Me-me-me-me-meeeeee!!”


I’d gladly give up that “Trump Change” so that more people can go see a doctor when they need to.
Did anybody put a gun on your head and stop you?
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Old 06-08-2018, 07:50 AM
 
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You can give them Earned Income Tax credits.



Trumps tax cuts gave the richest 0.1% of Americans 30% of the tax cuts (about $500 billion dollars.)

Do you believe billionaires like Bill Gates and Warren Buffet needed a tax cut?
Do you believe billionaires like Bill Gates needed money to buy something they want or start a new business?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/janetno.../#7ba235771099



The bottom 80% of Americans got about 30% of Trumps tax cuts. And if the richest 0.1% of Americans didn't get a tax cut then your tax cut would be $1,200 a year.
https://www.cbpp.org/research/federa...nal-priorities

Would you rather give billionaires tax cuts and get yourself a $600 tax cut, or would you rather not give billionaires a tax cut and get yourself a $1,200 tax cut?

(And did billionaires like Bill Gates even need a tax cut?)
I don't hate rich people. Its that simple. I spent my life searching for adventure not money. The money just fell into my lap during my adventures. I wouldn't trade places with Bill Gates or any other person.
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Old 06-09-2018, 05:23 AM
 
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Your source says utility rates will be cut by $3 billion dollars (while Trumps tax cuts are worth $2.3 trillion dollars.)
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/w...t-gop-tax-cuts

Trump's tax cuts gave the richest 1% of Americans 53% of the tax cuts (so the richest 1% get $1 trillion dollars in tax cuts.)
https://www.forbes.com/sites/janetno.../#44e71f201099

The richest 1% got $1 trillion dollars in tax cuts and they give everyday Americans $3 billion dollars in reduced electric bills, and you cheer this?

How about giving regular Americans $1 trillion dollars in tax cuts, and then when regular Americans spend the money the richest 1% will get much of it when we buy their products?


And $3 billion dollars is a small crumb compared to $1 trillion dollars. For example, Donald Trumps kids get $2.8 billion dollars from Trumps tax cuts.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/th...ids-2017-09-28

It is noted who you COMPLETELY IGNORED that the "rich" pay the MOST in taxes by a LARGE AMOUNT so it makes sense that those that PAY THE MOST will get the MOST in cuts and in the end will STILL PAY THE MOST.
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Old 06-09-2018, 05:27 AM
 
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Originally Posted by chad3 View Post
You can give them Earned Income Tax credits.



Trumps tax cuts gave the richest 0.1% of Americans 30% of the tax cuts (about $500 billion dollars.)

Do you believe billionaires like Bill Gates and Warren Buffet needed a tax cut?
Do you believe billionaires like Bill Gates needed money to buy something they want or start a new business?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/janetno.../#7ba235771099



The bottom 80% of Americans got about 30% of Trumps tax cuts. And if the richest 0.1% of Americans didn't get a tax cut then your tax cut would be $1,200 a year.
https://www.cbpp.org/research/federa...nal-priorities

Would you rather give billionaires tax cuts and get yourself a $600 tax cut, or would you rather not give billionaires a tax cut and get yourself a $1,200 tax cut?

(And did billionaires like Bill Gates even need a tax cut?)
"You can give them Earned Income Tax credits."

Which is, people who pay no or very little taxes get a "rebate". How can people who paid NOTHING, get a "rebate"?


"Do you believe billionaires like Bill Gates and Warren Buffet needed a tax cut?"


How much did they ALREADY pay in taxes in Dollars amount NOT some % (which people use when they try to show"unfairness". How much is "enough in REAL dollars"?
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Old 06-09-2018, 05:29 AM
 
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I got about a 10% reduction in my electric bill.
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Old 06-09-2018, 05:34 AM
 
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What a nice dream. My electric bills have been steadily rising. They are close to being obscene considering I live in a little house. Guess I must be having a nightmare instead.
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Old 06-09-2018, 06:18 AM
 
Location: USA
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So, are we going to blame Trump for high gas prices yet if we're going to - insanely - give him credit for some utilities lowering rates? Or, does that not fit the right-wing narrative around here?
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Old 06-09-2018, 06:46 AM
 
Location: Houston
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According to your savior Obama....everyone should already be there...yet...nope....or maybe you just conveniently forgot he said that? Don't say obamas no longer president, we understand that...yet he stil stated that long long long before trump ever stated it.....


BTW, trump change? You understand people want to save money, when was the last time you seen a GEICO commercial? People can save up to 600 a year...and they flock to GEICO....

We would be there had it not been for the GOP actively sabotaging the ACA since the beginning.
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