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Old 02-22-2018, 03:45 PM
 
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And for those of you wondering why this matters, Bloomberg news has a good analysis of why Mueller is currently focusing on the lobbyists:

Mueller Is Ending the Era of Impunity for Washington's Foreign Lobbyists

As I said earlier, follow the lobbyists. My hunch is that this is ultimately going to be what a lot of this investigation is about.

Remember, also: lobbyists like Manafort are intimately involved with BOTH sides of the aisle. Again, this isn't a partisan issue; it's an American issue.
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Old 02-22-2018, 03:53 PM
 
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Side note to the 32 new Manafort indictments:

Paul Manafort latest attempt to be released from conditional home confinement was shot down by a federal judge.

Judge says no to Paul Manafort's latest bail request

Guess the Federal courts aren't too keen on folks trying to use a home that's already pledged as collateral for a loan as bail collateral.
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Old 02-22-2018, 04:06 PM
 
Location: TUS/PDX
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Follow the money.

*tick* *tick* *tick*
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Old 02-22-2018, 04:08 PM
 
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Follow the money.

*tick* *tick* *tick*
The money AND the lobbyists,.

Looking through the new indictments, I see we now have a new "A" -- "Lender A." No doubt that is Stephen Calk and his Chicago bank. But there are also a "Lender B" and "Lender C" in the indictments. Follow the money indeed!

Again, the full indictments issued today can be found here: Manafort and Gates Indictment
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Old 02-22-2018, 04:41 PM
 
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Wow they are boned
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Old 02-22-2018, 05:02 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Wow they are boned

No good options for Manafort and Gates.

But they'll have a choice of dying in prison or turning on tRump.

Tough alternatives...

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Old 02-22-2018, 05:09 PM
 
Location: Inland Empire
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https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...al-case-419685

It appears that new charges in the Manafort case may have been filed. Im guessing Gates has flipped and we are seeing the first results of that information.

Mueller seems to be accelerating the pace as of late
Still a big nothing burger on Trump. Just a CNN wet dream.
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Old 02-22-2018, 05:13 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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So tired of this phony "investigation" that is ruining peoples lives for no reason (except to justify Mueller's existence, who should be under investigation himself for his role in the Uranium One deal while he was FBI Director.
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Old 02-22-2018, 05:24 PM
 
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So tired of this phony "investigation" that is ruining peoples lives for no reason (except to justify Mueller's existence, who should be under investigation himself for his role in the Uranium One deal while he was FBI Director.
That excuse don't work
Wishful thinking
Manafort lived by being corrupt and some people who actually have the skills and resources are bringing him to the bar of justice
K Street is also getting some light thrown on its corrupt practices
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Old 02-22-2018, 05:28 PM
 
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No good options for Manafort and Gates.

But they'll have a choice of dying in prison or turning on tRump.

Tough alternatives...

Manafort won't live if he turns on Trump IMO
Several of the likely sources that gave Steel info for the dossier were killed after they were outed--
Some suspect Trump spilling info to Russians brought that about
So I think Manafort knows better a life under the jail than a target on his back
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