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Old 02-18-2018, 12:07 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Apologies if this link was previously posted on one of the many threads related to the Florida Mass Shooting. If so, it's likely buried in the gun debate.

Anyway, the article provides background inf about the family that gave Cruz shelter and further insight into Cruz.

Nikolas Cruz: 'We had this monster living under our roof and we didn
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Old 02-18-2018, 12:33 PM
 
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Apologies if this link was previously posted on one of the many threads related to the Florida Mass Shooting. If so, it's likely buried in the gun debate.

Anyway, the article provides background inf about the family that gave Cruz shelter and further insight into Cruz.

Nikolas Cruz: 'We had this monster living under our roof and we didn
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Cruz’s mom seemed to have cosseted him.
“He was very naïve. He wasn’t dumb, just naïve,” James said.
He didn’t know how to cook. They had to show him how to use a microwave. He didn’t know how to do his laundry and also had to learn to pick up after himself.
He didn’t drive but bought a bicycle and rode it to work at a nearby Dollar Tree.
Why how shocking that he was a coddled kid who was waited on by a single mom. Could not have predicted that.

Interesting that an ex-military intelligence officer didn't do a minimal social media screening of this teenager he allowed in his home with guns. That couple needs to question why their son was close friends with Cruz. All the adults here sound phenomenally naïve and quite reckless.

I know of people who did this, inviting "troubled" kids (often over 18) to their homes and it never ends well. Normally the kid just won't leave and needs to be evicted, or steals, takes drugs, damages property, etc. Stop the do-gooding and look out for yourself and your own family.

Cruz had five or six guns and a ton of knives - where did he get the money to buy them? Thousands of dollars! At 18 or 19 I could barely afford a new pair of jeans. Shame on anyone who helped this sick demented person by giving him money to buy arms. I am sure the story is even worse than we know as far as irresponsibility of all adults around him, from family to school to law enforcement. The few parties who were actually behaving as responsible people by reporting him were blown off by authorities. Shame.
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Old 02-18-2018, 12:49 PM
 
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Why how shocking that he was a coddled kid who was waited on by a single mom. Could not have predicted that.

Interesting that an ex-military intelligence officer didn't do a minimal social media screening of this teenager he allowed in his home with guns. That couple needs to question why their son was close friends with Cruz. All the adults here sound phenomenally naïve and quite reckless.

I know of people who did this, inviting "troubled" kids (often over 18) to their homes and it never ends well. Normally the kid just won't leave and needs to be evicted, or steals, takes drugs, damages property, etc. Stop the do-gooding and look out for yourself and your own family.

Cruz had five or six guns and a ton of knives - where did he get the money to buy them? Thousands of dollars! At 18 or 19 I could barely afford a new pair of jeans. Shame on anyone who helped this sick demented person by giving him money to buy arms. I am sure the story is even worse than we know as far as irresponsibility of all adults around him, from family to school to law enforcement. The few parties who were actually behaving as responsible people by reporting him were blown off by authorities. Shame.
Yeah it's pretty strange in itself for an 18-19 year old to buy probably a few thousand dollars in firearms and kives and not even have a car.
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Old 02-18-2018, 12:53 PM
 
Location: North of Canada, but not the Arctic
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They said they made him lock his guns up in a safe...

...that he had the key to.
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Old 02-18-2018, 12:56 PM
 
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They said they made him lock his guns up in a safe...

...that he had the key to.
They didn't realize he had the key though. They thought they had the only key (or at least that's what I thought I read).

I think we will probably find that the now-deceased mother may have stood by and allowed the weapons collecting or may have even funded it.
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Old 02-18-2018, 12:56 PM
 
Location: London
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Sounds like he resembled this lovely specimen:



Warning: Do not watch with headphones if you have any love for your ears...

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Old 02-18-2018, 01:30 PM
 
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They didn't realize he had the key though. They thought they had the only key (or at least that's what I thought I read).

I think we will probably find that the now-deceased mother may have stood by and allowed the weapons collecting or may have even funded it.
She wouldn't be the first.

As for the other family, if you let someone live in your house and insist that he must lock up his gun and not have a key, maybe you don't want that person living in your house. If I let someone who owns a gun live in my house, they are someone I trust with a gun. There are no gray areas here.

The first family he lived with after the mother died kicked him out and kept his younger brother. The brother was taken to a psych hospital soon after all this happened. He lost his mother a few months ago and now this, poor kid.
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Old 02-18-2018, 01:35 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Sounds like he resembled this lovely specimen:

probably spends a lot on keyboards.
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Old 02-18-2018, 01:38 PM
 
Location: London
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probably spends a lot on keyboards.
Almost forgot to mention...do NOT wear headphones while watching this...
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