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Old 10-13-2017, 05:07 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Originally Posted by petch751 View Post
I know people already doing that. Obamacare (another form of welfare) promotes Sloth


IF
this is such a good move to improve Obamacare being made by Trump, WHY didn't he make it immediately after taking office as he promised multiple times while campaigning?


Sounds like more typical BS from the consummate con-man.
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Old 10-13-2017, 05:07 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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So glad I live in a blue state that has no patience for Trump, especially on issues like this.
Fine with me. Get your blue state taxes to pay for every state resident's health care.
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Old 10-13-2017, 05:14 AM
 
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I was healthy until the day I was diagnosed with stage IV cancer at the ripe old age of 23. I will live another 40-50 years, G-d willing, but not if my medical insurance costs far more than my middle class income as many predictions of Trumpcare suggest.

You're only healthy until you're not. That's why everyone pays into insurance.
Not everyone pays, and that's exactly why Obamacare DOESN'T work.
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Old 10-13-2017, 05:15 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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This is interesting because the republicans can still approve the payments through legislation, so once again he has asked the GOP to put up or shut up. So we heard from the Tea Party in Rand Paul but I can't imagine the other red state governors are going to react well to this. Either way this will impact Trump's constituency greatly in the states he carried.
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Old 10-13-2017, 05:16 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Glad to see young and healthy have a new option. They should not be required to subsidize grandma's health insurance.
Yes those health plans that are comprised of old and sick people work the best.
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Old 10-13-2017, 05:17 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Going against the legislative branch by EO is never a good sign.
Trump isn't going against the legislative branch. It's the legislative branch that declined to fund Obamacare.
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Old 10-13-2017, 05:23 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Trump isn't going against the legislative branch. It's the legislative branch that declined to fund Obamacare.
and it's the legislative branch that will be held responsible.


Congress will now need to decide if they want to pass legislation to approve the subsides for the ACA, they can let this slide at their own risk. I do believe there will be a few unhappy governors and voters.
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Old 10-13-2017, 05:24 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Trump's new Healthcare EO will cost Red States bigly.
The EO is designed to refuse subsidies for the poor.

We need a president who will uphold the laws, not sabotage and undermine them.
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Old 10-13-2017, 05:26 AM
 
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and it's the legislative branch that will be held responsible.
Good. Dems will lose more seats in Congress. They failed to fund Obamacare.
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Old 10-13-2017, 05:31 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Originally Posted by Nordelyk View Post
What countries have universal healthcare, and what percentage of those countries have a VAT that is 25% or higher?
Many of the European/Scandinavian countries have a VAT tax of 20-25%.

Quick list:

VAT tax rates in Europe

Want universal health care? Open your wallet and start paying the 25% VAT tax it would take to fund it in the US.
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