An independent Trump separates from the Republican Party (employment, enemies, speech)
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This week... GOPers Preibus and Spicer are out, Sessions is on Trump's hit list, Trump attacks and threatens GOP Congressmen, they fire back, and Trump brings in his own non-GOP crew. So now we have an independent Presidency with no friends in Congress. And you thought it couldn't get any more weird and dysfunctional.
I knew it could get more weird and dysfunctional, that's why I didn't vote for Hillary Clinton. We will always have that no matter what "At least our POTUS isn't Hillary Clinton".
I think the biggest problem with Trump is Ivanka and Jared. Trump is disloyal and ungrateful. I don't think Trump is a very good manager or leader. He's still better than Hillary but that doesn't mean he doesn't deserve criticism.
Well now neither Trump nor the RINOs will get anything done. The GOP won't give a poop about what Trump wants or doesn't want in terms of legislation and Trump will probably veto bills because he's a petty prick.
Hope you're enjoying all the winning!
Now that you mention it, I haven't heard Trump using that stupid "winning" thing lately. I guess he got so tired of winning that he doesn't need to say it any more. (not)
Dumping his Chief of Staff (an old school republican) should have been met with (at worst) interest or indifference. The hiring of an Old School warrior (who gets things done), should have been met with the same.
Instead the vitriol has reached a fever pitch. What hot button has been pushed?
Based on those in this thread whining the loudest, I think i like it....but at this point I'm not sure why. Is he a triangular genius? Is he going Bull Moose? Is he going to (figuratively) blow the place up and start over?
Well now neither Trump nor the RINOs will get anything done. The GOP won't give a poop about what Trump wants or doesn't want in terms of legislation and Trump will probably veto bills because he's a petty prick.
Hope you're enjoying all the winning!
I mean, it's hard to alienate everyone in both parties and then expect them to work toward your legislative agenda.
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Originally Posted by take57
Yeah, at this point there's no reason for the Republicans to lift a finger for Trump after firing the guy that has the best Rolodex in town in terms of political donors.
I wouldn't if I were them.
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Originally Posted by phma
How blind can people be to not see what has been going on.
Trump gave them a chance and they failed. They were never going to enact Trumps agenda and now that have used up any leverage they have with Trump. Trump has the leverage now. He is not obligated to sign anything they produce. They won't get the votes to override every veto or legislation sent to his desk and he won't sign without getting something in return. Congress is up for election in 2018 not Trump.
What leverage does Trump have? IF he wants to accomplish any of his OWN agenda (if he still has one) - he is going to need Republicans and Democrats to make that happen.
Which ones of them has any incentive to work with him?
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Originally Posted by SpitshineTommy
Please. Trump wouldn't have been elected dog catcher without the GOP's backing, even if it was lukewarm. He needed then to win, so don't spin this as a noble move by Trump - - he's a vindictive wannabe tyrant, nothing more.
Absolutely. And he still needs them today to accomplish anything.
The Rino's have made the GOP into the Goof Off Party..GOP won't get anything done. McCain is a anti Trump Jealous Rino.
yeah we get it, anyone who does not do exactly as you wish is a rino, we have heard this for years. it gets old.
The reality is Trump has gotten as close to barricading the doors as he can. Trump is isolating himself the same way he wants to isolate the USA. Maybe he figures if he is fighting with congress he can tell Putin that he is doing his best but government won't play...
So what now? Do the Dems and Repubs come together and get rid of this nutcase?
it is the first thing that springs to mind. I guess the big question is where is Pence on this. How would it fit with our military and security forces and have you put enough money into cash to mop up the blood we will see on wall street. i know I have put enough cash aside to buy buy buy when it hurts my stomach to press the key.
This week... GOPers Preibus and Spicer are out, Sessions is on Trump's hit list, Trump attacks and threatens GOP Congressmen, they fire back, and Trump brings in his own non-GOP crew. So now we have an independent Presidency with no friends in Congress. And you thought it couldn't get any more weird and dysfunctional.
Gosh, I was thinking the same thing today. He seems to be cutting off from the Republicans by these actions.
I never thought trump was a die hard republican, thats why I voted for him. He is a nationalist and populist /america first candidate who won with pat buchanans playbook and he has done a fantastic job. Cracking down on illegal immigration and america first policies, etc. amazing start . The exact opposite pf the typical cuckservative
House approves spending bill with $1.6 billion to start Trump’s border wall
Trump announces $10 billion Foxconn plant in Wisconsin
Greatest president in my lifetime and its not even close
oh come on, do you think for one second anyone here believes you think this?
Honestly?
You must surely know we all look at this and see you trying to convince yourself everything is great.
Gertrude would see straight through your play acting..
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