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Old 05-31-2017, 08:05 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Say what you will about American Cars, the ford fusion is a compact piece of work while Volkswagen would sooner explode due to emission problems and kill the rider.

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lol yep.
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Old 06-01-2017, 12:53 AM
 
Location: Finland
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If those guys aren't careful in a few years they will be wondering who is ruling them, their countries and how did they allow it to happen so fast.
Careful about what? Is somebody attacking us?
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Old 06-01-2017, 03:27 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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That is not the case. The bases are mainly there to support the US operations in the Middle East.

Look at numbers, please. The current US military presence in Europe is at a record low 30,000, down from 300,000 during the cold war. Up until this spring, the ground combat component (y'know, the guys needed to "occupy" anything) of that force was 2 light brigades (173rd Airborne and 2nd Stryker Cavalry). The teeth-to-tail ratio is ridiculous, and you're not going to "occupy" a continent with two brigades that don't even have a single tank between them.

Admittedly, this spring, equipment has gone into a facility in the Netherlands so that a heavy brigade can be set up faster. So - 2 brigades in existence and capacity for a 3rd.

That's not an occupying force. That's a tripwire force to make sure that Ivan can't do anything clever without engaging US forces, and make no mistake, Europe is happy to have them. Europe would be happier if US high command (Trump) would step up and back Article V unreservedly, something he's been very coy about. Because right now there's a sense that Trump would swap Estonia for hotel concessions on the Red Square, if someone convinced him it was a yuge deal, the bigliest deal ever.



Exactly, the US does not have a large military prresense in Europe, and the US contingent in Europe is largely there in order to provide intelligence, logistics, healthcare etc to US operations globally.

I hear a lot of nonsense from some Americans, but if Trump wants to withdraw US forces hthere is nothing stopping him. Go for it Donald and see what your National Security Advisors say.

The US hardly pays anything in defebce of Europe, it has nearly 1.4 million in it's armed forces and a further 800,000 in reserves, whats do they have in Europe 30,000 soldiers, a few frontline airforces bases and a naval base in Italy.

A withdrawl from Europe might save 2% of the defence budget, but then again you wuld have to rebase the forces so it would actuslly cost the US more to bring them home.

As for the forces in Europe, they are often deployed outside Europe and are as deployable as any other US Forces, whilst the US has an array of intelligence, medical and logistcs facilites supporing US forces globally in relation to all the US Armed Services and Intelligence Agencies.

Go for it Trump.

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Old 06-01-2017, 11:17 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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He also taught it would be easier for a camel to navigate a particularly difficult entry into Jerusalem than for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of Heaven.

So why is it so many who self-identify as Christ-like worship a man who is on record as saying he keeps score with $$$ rather than any good he may have done in the world?
1) I don' t think you know what Jesus meant in the passage you referenced.

2) I don't know any Christian who "self-identifies" as Christ-like, and we don't "worship" any man.
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Old 06-01-2017, 11:33 AM
 
Location: New Mexico
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Default The long & winding road

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I believe the family emigrated before Germany started killing Jews and importing Islamic terrorists.
Yah, Germany was late to the statehood game - didn't form as a country until the 1850sCE.

As for started killing Jews, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histor...ews_in_Germany

"Jewish settlers founded the Ashkenazi Jewish community in the Early (5th to 10th centuries CE) and High Middle Ages (circa 1000–1299 CE). The community survived under Charlemagne, but suffered during the Crusades. Accusations of well poisoning during the Black Death (1346–53) led to mass slaughter of German Jews,[2] and they fled in large numbers to Poland. The Jewish communities of the cities of Mainz, Speyer, and Worms became the center of Jewish life during Medieval times. "This was a golden age as area bishops protected the Jews resulting in increased trade and prosperity."[3] The First Crusade began an era of persecution of Jews in Germany.[4] Entire communities, like those of Trier, Worms, Mainz, and Cologne, were murdered. The war upon the Hussite heretics became the signal for renewed persecution of Jews. The end of the 15th century was a period of religious hatred that ascribed to Jews all possible evils. The atrocities during the Khmelnytsky Uprising committed by Khmelnytskyi's Cossacks (1648, in the Ukrainian part of southeastern Poland) drove the Polish Jews back into western Germany. With Napoleon's fall in 1815, growing nationalism resulted in increasing repression. From August to October 1819, pogroms that came to be known as the Hep-Hep riots took place throughout Germany. During this time, many German states stripped Jews of their civil rights. As a result, many German Jews began to emigrate."

(My emphasis - more @ the URL)

& so on. Most of Europe underwent the same or similar developments.

I don't think there were many Islamics in Europe - other than in the Balkans - @ the time. Islam considered Europe to be backward then.
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Old 06-01-2017, 01:18 PM
 
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"The Germans are evil, very evil," Trump reportedly complained in the meeting, attendees told German newspaper Der Spiegel. "Look at the millions of cars they sell in the U.S. We'll stop that."
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Old 06-01-2017, 02:28 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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well, as a Trump supporter, I have to say this is one of the times I think he screwed up.

German car manufacturer’s have plants inside the USA and Mexico, operated by local workers, who produce the cars for the American market.

If it were possible for Trump to block German imports, it wouldn’t affect the German car industry.

Germany has no independent trade policy. Trump would have to destroy his trade relations with the entire EU to screw with German imports.

I think his refusal to pledge support for NATO, and calling German bad or evil (whatever) will have some negative consequences for US influence in Europe, and is serving to deteriorate US alliances in general, who see this type of behavior as erratic, unreliable.

There is no doubt in my mind that he is leveling. not sure this is going to work.

Plus, The Ford plant is in Köln, and Opel is in Rüsselsheim and Eisenach. Nobody thinks of these as American cars (quite rightly).

Just like somebody buying any X-series BMW SUV is buying a car made in America.
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Old 06-02-2017, 02:01 AM
 
Location: England
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Now Trump has to pay for the sins of his ancestors. He just can't get a good word from anyone on the left. Doesn't matter if he does something right, y'all will dig to find something to criticize.

You forget the other side of the coin: pimps don't survive without customers. Maybe your grandfather was one of the customers? SOMEBODY's grandfather was.

LOL
Maybe your grandmother was the vendor?
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