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View Poll Results: Was Hillary Cheated out of the Presidency thanks to Russia?
yes 100 25.13%
no 298 74.87%
Voters: 398. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-20-2017, 03:27 PM
 
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Originally Posted by BOS2IAD View Post
And, how exactly, did the Russians turn a blue state red? Did they hold a gun to every voter's head? Or did they hold their families hostage while following voters to the polls to make sure they voted for Trump.

Ooooh! Ooooh! I know! They used mind control to force all those voters to reject Hillary! You should have told them all to wear tin foil hats that look just like yours so that the Russians couldn't use mind control on them
They did it by doing things like:
hacking the DNC
Posting fake news articles
Posting in forums like this
and much more.

As indicated today in Comeys testimony, they tracked thousands of different things the Russians were doing. LITERALLY thousands.

You need to start comprehending whats being discussed, not making up fantasies about it. This isnt about our election process, this is about how external countries are influencing our elections. It isnt even about WHO gets elected to them, it is about causing doubt, and mistrust in our process. Its about damaging our society.

 
Old 03-20-2017, 03:27 PM
 
Location: One of the 13 original colonies.
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Einstein...Hillary lost due to a variety of factors. If she had campaigned better she would have won, theres significant evidence that Comey cost her, but I could go on.

LOTS of different factors made the difference. If comey hadnt pulled his nonsense she would have won. If Russia hadnt influenced things-she would have won......unless....if Trump had X, Y, or Z would have prevented it.

Reality is, she lost, and she lost by people casting votes. PERIOD. We can argue whatifs, but theres no SINGLE reason she lost.

They always told me... if your Aunt had **** she would be your uncle. Ifs mean nothing.
 
Old 03-20-2017, 03:29 PM
 
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Einstein...Hillary lost due to a variety of factors. If she had campaigned better she would have won, theres significant evidence that Comey cost her, but I could go on.

LOTS of different factors made the difference. If comey hadnt pulled his nonsense she would have won. If Russia hadnt influenced things-she would have won......unless....if Trump had X, Y, or Z would have prevented it.

Reality is, she lost, and she lost by people casting votes. PERIOD. We can argue whatifs, but theres no SINGLE reason she lost.



Hillary had so many surrogates including Obama, all
Of Hollywood and the media and the supposed best ground game. You now act like she is disadvantaged when
She was given every advantage
 
Old 03-20-2017, 03:32 PM
 
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Libs need a reason to believe their aging senior queen didn't win. It was because of this or that..... But the TRUE reason she lost is because she is a horrible, corrupt human being.
 
Old 03-20-2017, 03:39 PM
 
Location: Toronto, ON
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She did it all herself. She lacked that one important ingredient that most people are supposed develop as they age, a sense of grace.
 
Old 03-20-2017, 03:41 PM
 
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what do you think
"cheated" out of the presidency? no

did Russia influence the election? probably

of course, all those people foaming at the mouth to "THROW HER IN JAIL" are of course unable to find anything wrong with Trump and his Russian ties.
 
Old 03-20-2017, 04:04 PM
 
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Originally Posted by greywar View Post
They did it by doing things like:
hacking the DNC
Posting fake news articles
Posting in forums like this
and much more.

As indicated today in Comeys testimony, they tracked thousands of different things the Russians were doing. LITERALLY thousands.

You need to start comprehending whats being discussed, not making up fantasies about it. This isnt about our election process, this is about how external countries are influencing our elections. It isnt even about WHO gets elected to them, it is about causing doubt, and mistrust in our process. Its about damaging our society.
Several good points there but let's start with the biggies.

1) The main damage the Russians did was in revealing the truth about things like debate cheating. They didn't make her cheat, they didn't create a false story about her cheating, they just exposed it.

2) More countries than just Russia do things like this....including our own country. So I have a hard time being outraged because that would be full of hypocrisy. I wish we too stayed out of interfering in foreign democracies.

3) The average American voter isn't that bright. That's not something you can fix.
 
Old 03-20-2017, 04:13 PM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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I spent a lot of time banging on doors during the campaign. What the stolen Emails did was to drive down democrat participation. Same as the week when Comey came out with his investigation just killed all the get out the vote effort.

So did the Russians hurt her campaign, the answer is yes.
 
Old 03-20-2017, 04:15 PM
 
Location: New Albany, Indiana (Greater Louisville)
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Russians probably trying some hacking but Hillary lost because she was a terrible candidate, the worst combination of SJWs with Reagan economic policy. Obama was in the SJW corner but at least he believed in New Deal economic policies.
 
Old 03-20-2017, 04:19 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Boss View Post
I spent a lot of time banging on doors during the campaign. What the stolen Emails did was to drive down democrat participation. Same as the week when Comey came out with his investigation just killed all the get out the vote effort.

So did the Russians hurt her campaign, the answer is yes.
I remember when the first set of emails came out the Access Hollywood tape with Trump was getting FAR more attention
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