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Old 12-23-2016, 12:50 PM
 
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However there are squirrels who may not get but a single acorn, because they were born close too the road. They can't get a single acorn without risk physically. When the car hit's them we say they should have been smarter and worked harder like the ones in the Forrest who were born underneath that large oak.
You'll never get ahead without some type of risk. Playing it safe and sticking to the "go to school, get good grades, get a good job, retire with a nice pension" mantra doesn't work.


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By screwing over the people you work with? Conning people? Isn't this the sort of thing that's lambasted on C-D?
These are the only ways to get rich? By being a degenerate? I think that's bs.
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Old 12-23-2016, 01:01 PM
 
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nice brag but with 200k you are not in the 1%, not even close....

According to statistical data from the Internal Revenue Service (IRS), the top 1% had an adjusted gross income of $465,626 or higher for the 2014 tax year.
How Much Income Puts You in the Top 1%, 5%, 10%? | Investopedia
Hmm?

For my age: "This centile started at $200,363.00 annually."


I make more than $200,363 annually, so again for my age I met the bar at least according to that one site.

I have no doubt when you include older people who have had more time and advancements it will skew much higher.

I used this calculator: https://dqydj.com/income-percentile-by-age-calculator/

For the hell of it here is another from Income Percentile Ranking Calculator - Rank income by age - Shnugi according to this my age+income put me at 98.07% or the top 1.93%.

Income Percentile Calculator - Find Your Percent With WhatsMyPercent.com has me at 1%, but it's not broken down by age or anything.

Wealth gap calculator: Are you in the millennial one percent? | Fusion

Apparently, yes. (It takes an income of about $106,500 a year to be in the millennial one percent, according to data from the U.S. Census Bureau’s Current Population Survey. That’s a group of about 720,000 young adults, and they control about double the income of the 14 million millennials in the bottom 20 percent.)

My point (and it's not a "brag") is this "zomgz the evil 1%" is a much lower bar to meet than many suspect.

I'm comfortable and don't have to worry about money, but I won't be firing up the private jet anytime well...ever.
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Old 12-23-2016, 01:17 PM
 
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You'll never get ahead without some type of risk. Playing it safe and sticking to the "go to school, get good grades, get a good job, retire with a nice pension" mantra doesn't work.
^^ this bears repeating.

I followed that mantra but it wasn't working. It wasn't until I took a big risk (and succeeded) that life changed for the better. If I continued to do more of the same I'd still be struggling.

I certainly think people need education but people have to be smart in the subjects THEY CHOOSE, not the subjects they tell you to take. Think of it this way, if you take the same classes as many before you, when paying outrageous college cost, they're basically pumping out clones. People need to stop following the crowd, research to see if those who you follow are successful or struggling, think for yourselves.
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Old 12-23-2016, 01:23 PM
 
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^^ this bears repeating.

I followed that mantra but it wasn't working. It wasn't until I took a big risk (and succeeded) that life changed for the better. If I continued to do more of the same I'd still be struggling. I certainly think people need education but people have to be smart in the subjects THEY CHOOSE, not the subjects they tell you to take. Think of it this way, if you take the same classes, follow the same path as many before you, when paying outrageous college cost, they're basically pumping out clones. People need to stop following the crowd.
I ditched a "good job" with a wife that was 8 months pregnant to strike out on my own; family and friends said I was nuts.

Saw an opportunity, seized, and profited well.
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Old 12-23-2016, 01:30 PM
 
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I ditched a "good job" with a wife that was 8 months pregnant to strike out on my own; family and friends said I was nuts.

Saw an opportunity, seized, and profited well.

But now those on the left want to "steal" your money because you really don't deserve it.

Wealth redistribution, reparations, etc.
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Old 12-23-2016, 01:32 PM
 
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I ditched a "good job" with a wife that was 8 months pregnant to strike out on my own; family and friends said I was nuts.

Saw an opportunity, seized, and profited well.
Naysayers who will try to discourage you, we had to ignore them. And then there are people who have bad attitudes toward people who took risks and became successful. I'll never forget Liz Warren and Obama saying "you didn't build that". After that a friend, also a business owner said,

"yea, no one wants to make the pie but they want a piece of pie after it's made."

I phased out a decent job. I'll never forget one time feeling nervous and thinking, "who in the hell did I was thinking I could do this". The bad day passed and I dug in and kept going. It was worth it.

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Old 12-23-2016, 01:34 PM
 
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Hmm?
For my age: "This centile started at $200,363.00 annually."
I'm comfortable and don't have to worry about money, but I won't be firing up the private jet anytime well...ever.
You have done well, no denying that, but reaching the status of being in the 1% does not mean that you are in the top one percent of a particular age group, but rather how your income compares to everyone else in the US.
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Old 12-23-2016, 01:42 PM
 
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You have done well, no denying that, but reaching the status of being in the 1% does not mean that you are in the top one percent of a particular age group, but rather how your income compares to everyone else in the US.
I didn't compare myself to everyone else. I compared myself to my own age. Seems more logical to compare myself against my peers who would have come into adulthood at the same time.

Me vs everyone huh?

What Percent Are You? - Real Time Economics - WSJ

According to this I am a lowly two percenter.



I can also break it down to geographical area (really doesn't take much to be the 1% in Flint), but these are 2012 figures.

According to this nationally I am a lowly three percenter.



http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...rcent-map.html
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Old 12-23-2016, 02:01 PM
 
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I didn't compare myself to everyone else. I compared myself to my own age. Seems more logical to compare myself against my peers who would have come into adulthood at the same time.
Me vs everyone huh?
Your first link was behind a paywall, so I couldn't look at it, your second link consisted of 2012 data. I suppose that you can use any parameters you want to determine whether you are in the 1% but when most people talk about the 1% they are not talking about how you measure up according to your age. Using that calculation, if a 7 year old has $100 in his piggy bank he might be in the 1%
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Old 12-23-2016, 02:11 PM
 
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Thanks to Trump. "Prove it" you say? It's called the Stock Market Casino and it's participation is by and large only the top 10% of Americans.
Guess again.

America's workers and retirees have in aggregate $27 Trillion invested in their pension/retirement accounts. Those investments include a HUGE amount of shares in corporations. When corporations profit, most of those profits go to fund those retirements.
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http://fiduciary-matters.russell.com...eave-it-alone/
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