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Old 02-27-2008, 11:14 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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For any genuine communists out there, I have a couple of questions. These are genuine questions, so please don't flame me. I am more interested in hearing from people who want a revolution in the US and have some vision of a communist society, not necessarily references to other attempts at communism such as the USSR or China.

1) What happens to someone who chooses not to work in a communist system? How do you make sure that everyone provides a contribution in the absence of a profit motive?

2) If someone does not want to live within the communist system, do they have a right to leave and go elsewhere, or does success depend on a closed system?

3) What would happen to the property that people already own in a revolution - do people get reassigned to a house so that everyone has about the same living situation, or how does that work?

4) In true communism, is religion allowed, or is it contradictory to communism?

5) Do you consider a totalitarian government necessary for communism in order to manage the economy and the behavior of individuals?
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Old 02-27-2008, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Your mind
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I don't think the city-data politics forum rainbow stretches quite that far to the left, you might want to try a website with categories for "communists," "capitalists," "socialists," or something.
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Old 02-27-2008, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Good questions, I'll think about them and get back to you.
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Old 02-27-2008, 11:31 AM
 
Location: Southern New Jersey
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For any genuine communists out there, I have a couple of questions. These are genuine questions, so please don't flame me. I am more interested in hearing from people who want a revolution in the US and have some vision of a communist society, not necessarily references to other attempts at communism such as the USSR or China.

1) What happens to someone who chooses not to work in a communist system? How do you make sure that everyone provides a contribution in the absence of a profit motive?

2) If someone does not want to live within the communist system, do they have a right to leave and go elsewhere, or does success depend on a closed system?

3) What would happen to the property that people already own in a revolution - do people get reassigned to a house so that everyone has about the same living situation, or how does that work?

4) In true communism, is religion allowed, or is it contradictory to communism?

5) Do you consider a totalitarian government necessary for communism in order to manage the economy and the behavior of individuals?

I have a feeling that many people would die before this country became communist.
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Old 02-27-2008, 11:33 AM
 
Location: South Bay Native
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I also have a feeling that many people are unaware of their beliefs as being communist or refuse to identify them as such.
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Old 02-27-2008, 11:47 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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I don't think the city-data politics forum rainbow stretches quite that far to the left, you might want to try a website with categories for "communists," "capitalists," "socialists," or something.

Yeah, I thought that, but I thought I would give it a shot.
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Old 02-27-2008, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Southern New Jersey
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Yeah, I thought that, but I thought I would give it a shot.
I just have a quick question of you; why do you want to know? Is it for a school paper or something?

You can always check out the Communist Party USA's Web site. I recall seeing on there several years ago "those who disagree with the party will be dealth with severely."
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Old 02-27-2008, 12:08 PM
 
Location: Boise
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5) Do you consider a totalitarian government necessary for communism in order to manage the economy and the behavior of individuals?
A free market economy is essential for political freedom and dissent. If every newspaper, television channel, etc. are owned and operated by the State as it is in communsim, there can be no dissent. Communism requires a huge centralized government to work. The larger a government becomes the closer it becomes to being a totalitarian state. Generally communism is a bad idea and hasn't work, therefore the people who live under a communist dictator must not be allowed to present alternate ideas of capitalism, the ideas would more than likely resonate.

People in the past have argued for a democratic communist state, but that in itself is a contradiction. Only one party can be allowed in a communist state, and elections would be decided before the happen, because the media which is owned and operated by the state would only cover the incumbant in a good light. It would be like one presidential candidate owning CNN, MSNBC, and FOX, along with every newspaper in the country. This is currently happening in post-Soviet Russia. Even though they are no longer a communist state, the government still owns the media. Independent media outlets are shutdown, since the government owns the airwaves. Putin is portrayed as a god-like figure and anyone else is portrayed as a dissenter, who doesn't have the best interests of the Russian people at heart.

This the communist party's website they advocate the contradictory democratic communism. The don't run any candidates because they feel that it is better to support Democratic candidates, because they realistically know that someone with Communist next to their name will never get voted for. You can also buy a lot of neat Karl Marx things at their website. A little materialistic if you ask me.
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Old 02-27-2008, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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I just have a quick question of you; why do you want to know? Is it for a school paper or something?

You can always check out the Communist Party USA's Web site. I recall seeing on there several years ago "those who disagree with the party will be dealth with severely."
No, I'm close to 40 and haven't been in school for years. I had read something about Che Guevara when that whole flap started about the flag in the Obama office in Texas, and ran across some articles from people who would like to see actual revolution and communism in the US. The concepts of communism are so foreign to my understanding of the world and human nature so that I am very fascinated by people who would choose that way of living. I would just like to know some of the logistics of what they would like to have happen in the US, such as how do we decide who gets what house, does a doctor have the same home and material goods as a ditch digger, what would motivate someone to work outside of material reward, etc. Many communists say that it has never been done right (Cuba seems to be the most cited example, but is still not felt to be a perfect manifestation of communism in their eyes, as far as I can tell), so I am just wondering what they would have in store if revolution did happen. I am going to post some of these questions on a communist website as well and see what answers I get.
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Old 02-27-2008, 12:26 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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You can also buy a lot of neat Karl Marx things at their website. A little materialistic if you ask me.
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Yeah, do you remember the story about the preschool Lego lesson in which the teachers banned Legos because the kids were reflecting an "unjust and oppressive society" of capitalism in their play? The irony is that the school is a private preschool that charges yuppie parents something like $1000 a month!!! Unjust and oppressive, indeed!!
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