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That's why they should be fenced off from decent people with controlled access points to their neighborhoods. IF they want to kill each other fine, don't let sit spill into other areas.
I would say most of these shoots are between violent criminal types, who settle things with a gun. Their mentality is that life is cheap, and they have no regard for it. Childish? Dangerous, more like it. They aren't Kindergartners fighting over a coveted toy. They are armed, violent criminals. Adults, who are responsible and accountable for their actions.
Yeah the shooters tend to be teen or young adult males who seem to operate with the cognitive and impulse control level of a young child who was called a big fat poo- poo head on the playground.
Yeah the shooters tend to be teen or young adult males who seem to operate with the cognitive and impulse control level of a young child who was called a big fat poo- poo head on the playground.
You're correct, in one thing. The reasons for the shootings do seem trivial, to we on the outside. Somebody wore a red hoody, North of so.e street, and blue is the dominant color there, somebody flashed the wrong hand sign, someone's ball cap visor was turned left instead of right, etc. Teen and young adult males might make up a fair percentage of the shooters, but they are still conditioned to settle things with a gun. Age, notwithstanding, they are dangerous, cold blooded killers.
Impulse control isn't what makes the weapons come out. Its conditioning. They're reacting in the way they're "code" requires them to. Crops, Bloods, MS13, Latin Kings, whatever. They see themselves as soldiers, in a war. Their reason s for killing may seem trivial to you, but not to them. The young men are the forward deployed troops in these "wars". Trying to earn their "street cred", via wet work and other violent acts.
There's quite a bit more involved than being called "a big,, fat, poo poo head". Childish impulsiveness isn't what motivates them, its a violent and vicious honor code, and a total disregard for life outside their "clan". These are NOT impulsive children. They're cold blooded killers, raised in a pseudo warrior society, in which you get ahead by being the worst of the worst.
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Gun control in Chicago is irrelevant. All that matters in Chicago are guns.
We are making the mistake of approaching Chicago the same way we would Seattle or Boston. Things that matter in these cities do not matter in Chicago. Law and rights especially don't matter.
The correct way to approach Chicago and its violence is as if it were Mogadishu. The only law that matters is the law of the jungle. As in Mogadishu, gangs are the basic unit of social organization. Gang loyalty is the only one. Violence against all other is all. There was only one way to deal with gangs in Mogadishu and there in only one way in Chicago.
Until we approach Chicago as we would Mogadishu it will never end and might never end anyway.
Gun control in Chicago is irrelevant. All that matters in Chicago are guns.
We are making the mistake of approaching Chicago the same way we would Seattle or Boston. Things that matter in these cities do not matter in Chicago. Law and rights especially don't matter.
The correct way to approach Chicago and its violence is as if it were Mogadishu. The only law that matters is the law of the jungle. As in Mogadishu, gangs are the basic unit of social organization. Gang loyalty is the only one. Violence against all other is all. There was only one way to deal with gangs in Mogadishu and there in only one way in Chicago.
Until we approach Chicago as we would Mogadishu it will never end and might never end anyway.
They are blaming the guns. It's unbelievable that they think their voters are that stupid. Maybe Democrats truly have become that stupid? I have no idea. If not for the guns they would all be having campfires at night, discussing differential equations and Shakespeare right?
If Hillary wins I have no idea what the future holds.
I'm told turf battles fought by gangs with illegal guns are caused by a prohibition on narcotics that creates a black market for prohibited drugs.
I'm also told that the obvious solution to the problem is to legalize drugs and prohibit guns.
Apparently a prohibition on street drugs won't work but a prohibition on guns will.
You're correct, in one thing. The reasons for the shootings do seem trivial, to we on the outside. Somebody wore a red hoody, North of so.e street, and blue is the dominant color there, somebody flashed the wrong hand sign, someone's ball cap visor was turned left instead of right, etc. Teen and young adult males might make up a fair percentage of the shooters, but they are still conditioned to settle things with a gun. Age, notwithstanding, they are dangerous, cold blooded killers.
Impulse control isn't what makes the weapons come out. Its conditioning. They're reacting in the way they're "code" requires them to. Crops, Bloods, MS13, Latin Kings, whatever. They see themselves as soldiers, in a war. Their reason s for killing may seem trivial to you, but not to them. The young men are the forward deployed troops in these "wars". Trying to earn their "street cred", via wet work and other violent acts.
There's quite a bit more involved than being called "a big,, fat, poo poo head". Childish impulsiveness isn't what motivates them, its a violent and vicious honor code, and a total disregard for life outside their "clan". These are NOT impulsive children. They're cold blooded killers, raised in a pseudo warrior society, in which you get ahead by being the worst of the worst.
Then I guess those hood rat fools NEED to keep killing each other till their kind have joined the dinosaurs.
Then I guess those hood rat fools NEED to keep killing each other till their kind have joined the dinosaurs.
It surely isn't a sustainable culture. Killing off your young and strong by using them for cannon fodder, doesn't make a lot of sense, in germs of remaining viable. The idea of hemming them into their respective areas, and letting the factions (packs..if you will) duke it out doesn't seem so far fetched. Especially given the state of things in Chicago. Its a prime example of what happens when you allow vermin to go unchecked.
So, let them draw up some battle lines, and get busy. Whoever is left standing, in the end, we can root out with some Marines, or community militia, even better. The militia can mop up, and decent people can move in and rebuild.
It surely isn't a sustainable culture. Killing off your young and strong by using them for cannon fodder, doesn't make a lot of sense, in germs of remaining viable. The idea of hemming them into their respective areas, and letting the factions (packs..if you will) duke it out doesn't seem so far fetched. Especially given the state of things in Chicago. Its a prime example of what happens when you allow vermin to go unchecked.
So, let them draw up some battle lines, and get busy. Whoever is left standing, in the end, we can root out with some Marines, or community militia, even better. The militia can mop up, and decent people can move in and rebuild.
Strong bodies but weak minds. Kinda like way too many of us "Irish" dudes 100 years ago with our heavy drinking and brawling. Bad to say; but our kind brought a LOT of drama on ourselves till the rest of us wised up.
Thomas Sowell said in many ways; "traditional" Irish culture and lower class American "Black" culture are real close and, that ain't very good at times.
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Childish impulsiveness isn't what motivates them, its a violent and vicious honor code, and a total disregard for life outside their "clan". These are NOT impulsive children. They're cold blooded killers, raised in a pseudo warrior society, in which you get ahead by being the worst of the worst.
