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Old 04-01-2016, 10:27 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Thus far Obama has commuted the sentences of about 250 inmates, a third of which were serving life sentences for non- violent crimes.

Tens of thousands of inmates apply for sentence commutation each year.

The average cost of incarceration in a federal prison was $ 30,620/ yr in 2014. That's $ 7.7 million/ yr and $77.7 million over ten years for 250 non- violent inmates.

As I understand it, there is tremendeous inconsistentcy as it relates to sentencing for similar crimes, depending on when and judge which had influence on determining which inmate applications are considered for action.
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Old 04-02-2016, 05:21 AM
 
Location: Hiding from Antifa!
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The two issues are not related. The folks being released should not be there to begin with. Are you saying that these folks should remain in jail because of unemployment rates?
I just made the connection in the OP. Maybe you can say you saw it here first!
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Old 04-02-2016, 06:12 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Under Obama the labor participation rate has become the worst in recent history. Now he is commuting more sentences than any president in recent history. What do you think these ex cons are going to do when they can't find employment?
Another Obama Derangement Syndrome thread ! I guess you need to milk the next 10 months !

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Old 04-02-2016, 09:39 AM
 
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Amazing how the labor participation rate suddenly became the one single metric worth paying attention to.

I am not going to dig around for the latest version, but feast your eyes on the bikini graph.



Horrible, isn't it?
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Old 04-02-2016, 09:45 AM
 
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What I am saying is, if they have no means of support, since they already have a record, what is the likelyhood that they resort to criminal activities to get by?
So, what's your constructive suggestion here? As far as I can tell, there are two options:
  1. Commute disproportionate sentences, no matter the job situation, because government has a moral and legal obligation to run a penal system that at least appears fair.
  2. Keep people locked up for a disproportionate time based on the likelihood that they may commit crimes in the future because the job participation rate is low.

Seems to me the only ethical choice is #1, what's your solution?
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Old 04-02-2016, 09:46 AM
 
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Yes the fed has us roaring into another collapse. Right now many of its favored sectors are on the upside/bubble(not to be confused with sustainable consumer driven growth)
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Old 04-02-2016, 09:52 AM
 
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Yes the fed has us roaring into another collapse.
What sectors would that be?
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Old 04-02-2016, 10:02 AM
 
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Here , use the Fred charts. They arent biased. All in all the charts track everything related to employment. Politicians use the numbers they need to make the chart work for their agenda. GDP is a true indication of US economy, and with FRED charts you can see many have given up on employment, like in late 70's.
Putting people on the streets from jail sint doing much to hurt employment chances..
https://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/CIVPART
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Old 04-02-2016, 11:18 AM
 
Location: Hiding from Antifa!
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Amazing how the labor participation rate suddenly became the one single metric worth paying attention to.

I am not going to dig around for the latest version, but feast your eyes on the bikini graph.



Horrible, isn't it?
I don't know where you got your graph from. Is there one available that shows the 8 years prior to 2008 so that we can do a direct comparison?
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Old 04-02-2016, 12:27 PM
 
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I don't know where you got your graph from. Is there one available that shows the 8 years prior to 2008 so that we can do a direct comparison?
My charts allow you to do it.
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