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Of course the question is why are there so many guns in places where there are no gun manufacturers? Who or what is flooding the African American community with guns?
The same ones who are flooding my community with them where I would have too estimate about 90% of households will have at least one gun. You can walk down the street with a weapon here, you can obtain a new one in about 40 minutes including the 15 minute drive each way. You can also shoot them on your property, gun shots are not common but aren't out of the ordinary either.
Despite this all this gun activity there is no gun crime, there is very little crime at all....
You shouldnt use the word lie so freely when no one has ever proven a F&F gun was used to kill any American.
You also shouldnt use an ipso facto argument, which is what Politifact did. If you shut down a restaurant for a year, and then reopen it under another name in the exact same location do you claim it is a new restaurant. The answer is obviously no, and yet that is what both you and politifact are arguing.
No.
Obama point blank lied.
"I think it’s important for us to understand that the Fast and Furious program was a field-initiated program begun under the previous administration," -Obama
This is a lie. Fast and Furious did not begin under Bush, it began under Obama. Wide Receiver, a different program began under Bush and was ended under Bush.
"When (Attorney General) Eric Holder found out about it, he discontinued it." -Obama
This is a lie. Eric Holder knew about Fast and Furious from its inception, so he did not discontinue it when he found out about it.
Bush had a similar, yet different program that was discontinued in 2007 for being a threat to the public safety. Obama had a larger and different, but similar program started in October of 2009.
Be a man, use your brain and break the chains that enslave your mind to a party. When you excuse lies and failures from politicians simply because they are on your "team" we all fail. You fail too. Our government is failing us, because people like you enslave your minds to them. Don't be a sheep anymore, don't accept lies and failures.
Many people only want talk about Black men committing murders. Because of that, I often ask "what is your point in bringing this up"? I look at it like this. If it is hurting anyone who isn't Black, then people will get up in arms about it. However, if Blacks, especially males, are suffering the worst, then that factor gets ignored.
White people aren't telling the black community "snitches get stitches". White people aren't saying "don't issue harsh sentences on people who use guns during criminal acts". White people aren't saying "F the police". White people aren't saying "have kids out of wedlock". White people aren't saying "drop out of school". White people aren't saying "sell crack in your neighborhood".
Most issues that plague the black community are issues that will need to be dealt with by the black community.
White people aren't telling the black community "snitches get stitches". White people aren't saying "don't issue harsh sentences on people who use guns during criminal acts". White people aren't saying "F the police". White people aren't saying "have kids out of wedlock". White people aren't saying "drop out of school". White people aren't saying "sell crack in your neighborhood".
Most issues that plague the black community are issues that will need to be dealt with by the black community.
I never said White people were doing this. Did I once blame White people for Black men being murdered by other Black men? Name one time. I was talking about the fact that the only reason this kind of stuff is brought up is with the intent to complain about Black people.
I never said White people were doing this. Did I once blame White people for Black men being murdered by other Black men? Name one time. I was talking about the fact that the only reason this kind of stuff is brought up is with the intent to complain about Black people.
What I'm saying is that it's not a big issue for white people, because white people aren't to blame and essentially have no power to do anything about a cultural issue in black neighborhoods.
What I'm saying is that it's not a big issue for white people, because white people aren't to blame and essentially have no power to do anything about a cultural issue in black neighborhoods.
Well, this had nothing to do with that I was saying. You were going off topic. I was talking about people only bringing this up because they want to complain about Black people. I bring up the fact that with alot of Black perpetrators, the victims are mostly Black. I never once mentioned White people, so I don't think bringing that up was a good idea.
This data, along with the annual FBI Uniform Crime Report, suggests that we don't need more gun control. What we evidently need is more or better black male control.
One of the things that I find most interesting is how long the American public will continue to believe that "we are all the same, only with different skin color" despite virtually all of the empirical evidence suggesting otherwise.
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I was talking about people only bringing this up because they want to complain about Black people.
Considering that gun control legislation effectively punishes white people for illegal activities largely committed by black people, I think it is fair of white people to complain.
White people don't complain about black people simply for being black. White people complain about black peoples' actions.
This data, along with the annual FBI Uniform Crime Report, suggests that we don't need more gun control. What we evidently need is more or better black male control.
One of the things that I find most interesting is how long the American public will continue to believe that "we are all the same, only with different skin color" despite virtually all of the empirical evidence suggesting otherwise.
Considering that gun control legislation effectively punishes white people for illegal activities largely committed by black people, I think it is fair of white people to complain.
White people don't complain about black people simply for being black. White people complain about black peoples' actions.
The evidence makes a lot of people uncomfortable, as it contradicts their beliefs.
It's true that all humans are born equal, however, we almost immediately begin to separate and distinguish ourselves. People cannot be equals when we all live such different lives. As I've said, that truth makes many people uncomfortable.
This data, along with the annual FBI Uniform Crime Report, suggests that we don't need more gun control. What we evidently need is more or better black male control.
One of the things that I find most interesting is how long the American public will continue to believe that "we are all the same, only with different skin color" despite virtually all of the empirical evidence suggesting otherwise.
Considering that gun control legislation effectively punishes white people for illegal activities largely committed by black people, I think it is fair of white people to complain.
White people don't complain about black people simply for being black. White people complain about black peoples' actions.
We've had "Black male control". We call it slavery, Jim Crow. It didn't stop Black men from becoming murder victims. All it did was emasculate Black men. Did you know that during slavery, it was illegal for a Black man to legally own a gun? This whole "we need to control the Black male" is as old as this nation itself. I don't buy it for a moment.
I personally don't care why anyone complains. Last I checked, Blacks who obey the law are subjected to those very same gun laws. Guess who gets murdered more than anyone else? Black males? If anyone needs to be able to defend themselves, based on the data, it is Black males, as they are the most likely to BE murder victims. But I don't see that mentioned.
And something else. If you break down the perps who commit murder, I notice this. None of them come from stable, two-parent homes. Most are often illegitimate children born to single mothers. Many don't know who their fathers are. Sounds like years of emasculation have basically done Black men no favor.
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