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Old 10-15-2015, 12:14 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Naturally the state is not operating well. It has a Republican governor whose goal is to make government not work so he can say, "See, big government doesn't work."
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Old 10-15-2015, 12:26 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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No, I don't think Chicago is the next Detroit, the two cities are completely different. I do think that the people of Chicago and the metro will be faced with tough choices as they are relied upon to cover the costs of their mostly rural state.
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Old 10-15-2015, 12:27 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Naturally the state is not operating well. It has a Republican governor whose goal is to make government not work so he can say, "See, big government doesn't work."
I always love that about Republicans, they act dysfunctional so that they can claim that big government doesn't work, then go and butcher their own government until it really doesn't work, and then doubles down that big government doesn't work and they need to butcher some more. Ask Kansas, it is a vicious cycle.
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Old 10-15-2015, 12:37 AM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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You can't tax the rich for your ever increasing spending.
Billionaire CEO's have 11% effective tax rates, and single Americans making $100,000 a year have 21% effective tax rates. Taxing the rich is not just about revenues (its about fairness.)

Forbes Welcome
Tax Brackets (Federal Income Tax Rates) 2000 through 2015

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Old 10-15-2015, 12:52 AM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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Naturally the state is not operating well. It has a Republican governor whose goal is to make government not work so he can say, "See, big government doesn't work."
Illinois Gov. Bruce Rauner lowers taxes for large corporations and the rich. "Fully two out of three corporations doing business in the state of Illinois had no state income tax obligation for fiscal 2008!"
What's Really Behind Illinois Budget Deficits: Rauner Won't Tax the Rich.


Gov. Rauner even gave himself a personal $750,000 yearly tax cut, and at the same time he cut government services to the poor and middle class (he gave himself a $750,000 tax cut and then cut government services to the poor and middle class.)

IL Governor Rauner Gets $750,000 Tax Break, Proposes Slashing Services to Middle Class and Poor*|*Robert Creamer
Rauner: Cut suburbs' income tax revenue in half

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Old 10-15-2015, 01:30 AM
 
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Great demonstration of Democratic Socialism and Crony Capitalism at work.

This is also the very state where Obama learned to govern. The results speak for themselves.
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Old 10-15-2015, 01:40 AM
 
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Yet another liberal untopia going under.

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Old 10-15-2015, 02:29 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Both the city of Chicago and the state of Illinois have a date with disaster due to irresponsibly giving out benefits that are not sustainable. This could snowball if people and businesses accelerate their departure of the sinking ship which is likely.

There are plenty of other states and cities that are on the same path, just not quite as far along.
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Old 10-15-2015, 02:56 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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I always love that about Republicans, they act dysfunctional so that they can claim that big government doesn't work, then go and butcher their own government until it really doesn't work, and then doubles down that big government doesn't work and they need to butcher some more. Ask Kansas, it is a vicious cycle.
I'm amused at the Liberals turning Illinois into this super red state....more red than Texas I tell ya. Okay, so it's the Governor of a nearby much smaller state's fault....okay. I'm disappointed ya'll haven't pulled out the 'it's Bush's fault' card yet. Add that to your argument.

So after decades of Republican rule, Chicago and the state of Illinois are going bankrupt due to the policies of Bush and Brownback...sound good?
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Old 10-15-2015, 06:27 AM
 
Location: Nashville, TN
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No, I don't think Chicago is the next Detroit, the two cities are completely different. I do think that the people of Chicago and the metro will be faced with tough choices as they are relied upon to cover the costs of their mostly rural state.
Ask someone from Illinois why we call it "the state of Chicago" instead of "the state of Illinois".
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