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Old 10-17-2015, 02:47 PM
 
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Sorry, from the writings of that "article" it's merely another arm of the right wing propaganda agenda, praising the right to work states and making snark comments at the union states, even through these "rankings" with Illinois, California, New Jersey, and New York at the bottom, they still boast the largest and most productive economies, you can only slight a state so far before it's obvious that there's political bias involved.
If you make a billion dollars and spend two billion, it doesn't matter how "robust" your economy is.


Jesus it's like Econ 101. Now I know why people can't balance a checkbook at least.
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Old 10-17-2015, 04:11 PM
 
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If you make a billion dollars and spend two billion, it doesn't matter how "robust" your economy is.


Jesus it's like Econ 101. Now I know why people can't balance a checkbook at least.
Exactly. These people are clueless.
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Old 10-17-2015, 04:48 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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The Credit worthiness of Kansas is 17th in the nation and Illinois is last. So I know you guys are hoping and dreaming that Kansas will fail...but they're just not. And their unemployment is well below the national average. So keep praying and hoping that they fail....so far, not working.

However, as far as Illinois failing, working.
Don't worry Brownback has been working hard to downgrade the state's rating and grow it's debt.
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Old 10-17-2015, 04:49 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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You say that like it's a good thing.
I say that like a fact based off of someone else's comment.
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Old 10-17-2015, 06:57 PM
 
Location: Sweet Home Chicago!
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I'm curious if anyone in Illinois is still buying lottery tickets?

Illinois fails to pay lottery winners as state’s budget craters « Hot Air

http://www.insideedition.com/headlin...ttery-winnings
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Old 10-18-2015, 09:49 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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You are arguing the equivalent of a kids who moves back into his parents house after blowing all his rent money.
No, I'm saying the giant Dem giveaway of unsustainable expenses and freebie benefits are damaging blue states the most. We all know it...

If You Look at This Map of 50 States Ranked by Fiscal Health, One Things Jumps Out at You

Other Dem voters have noticed and taken heed... why haven't you?
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"The Census story is a shocker. First, according to the Times, the Blacks leaving tend to be the “younger and better educated”. Second, the three states Blacks left in largest numbers don’t just include snake-bit Michigan; the other two are Illinois and New York. Within those states, Chicago and the city of the New York (widely considered among the most successful cities in the country) are the places Blacks are deserting. 17 percent of the Black flight from Big Blue is from the Empire State; after almost a century of trailblazing social policy, New York State has succeeded in creating the most hostile environment for Blacks in the country.

...The failure of blue social policy to create an environment which works for Blacks is the most devastating possible indictment of the 20th century liberal enterprise in the United States. Helping Blacks achieve the kind of equality and opportunity long denied them was more than one of many justifications for blue social policy: it was the defining moral task that has challenged and shaped American liberalism for the last fifty years.

The Census tells us that in the eyes of those who know best, these well intentioned efforts failed. Instead of heaven, we have hell across America’s inner cities. Blue economic policy has cut the creation of new private sector jobs to a trickle in our great cities, while the high costs of public union urban services (and policies that favor government employees over the citizenry at large) impose crippling taxes and contribute to the ruinously high costs that blight opportunity. All the social welfare bureaucracies, diversity counselors and minority set-asides can’t make up for the colossal failure of blue social policy to create sustainable lower middle class prosperity in our cities."
Much more: Black And Blue 2: Blacks Flee Blue States in Droves - Walter Russell Mead

The author is a Democrat who voted for Obama.
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Old 10-18-2015, 09:57 AM
 
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Exclamation This is the Path of the NNC Polcies and the People in charge.

Liberals and Socialist cry out in the night on Evil Conservatism is.The Fact is these Democratic run cities and states are in deep trouble. Why would any one trust the DNC Line for 2016.

Outsiders Like Trump , Carson and Fiorina are making head way, because they speak to economics not feelings.
Hope and change is a worn out promise and Americans are catching on.
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Old 10-18-2015, 10:17 AM
 
Location: Syracuse, New York
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This is a problem that can be solved by convincing pensioners to smoke, drink and eat more cheeseburgers.
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Old 10-18-2015, 03:23 PM
 
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Sherman Skolnick was raising the alarm about the raiding of the pension funds 30 years ago...

Sherman Skolnick's Report
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Old 10-18-2015, 06:10 PM
 
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Does Illinois send more money to the federal government than it gets back in return?
I actually just read the rankings recently and was surprised to see that of all 50 states, Illinois actually receives the LEAST from the federal government compared to what they give to the federal government.

Illinois followed by I think it was New Jersey are the largest contributors to the federal government on a % basis of all the states.

I had no idea. Not sure why this is, but Illinois needs to change something, they obviously can't afford to keep dishing out so much more than they get back. Strange too since with Obama you would think at least something would be steered back into the state, but I guess that's not how it works anyway. The Prez doesn't have power like that on a macro level.

Illinois gets around $0.45 from every $1.00 given to the federal government. On the other hand South Carolina gets around $8.00 for every $1.00 given!!

If thoses stats were switched Illinois would be raking in BILLIONS into its budget and the state from the Feds instead of handing over hundreds of millions more than it gets back.
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