What if Pagans in Europe behaved like Jews in the Middle East? (legal, Jesus)
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Arabs live in Israel as equal citizens, how about Jews in Gaza?
I'm against any type of theocracy and discrimination against nations... Israel is a Jewish state - should be secular! Jews have it easier to immigrate than non-Jews
I'm against any type of theocracy and discrimination against nations... Israel is a Jewish state - should be secular! Jews have it easier to immigrate than non-Jews
Interesting fumbling and back peddling.
Considering Israel is a democratic secular government, citizens of Israel have equal rights under Israeli law. What business is it of yours if Israel accepts its own people or not, what say you of Arab countries policies of barring Jews to be citizens? But prey tell the countries during the holocaust who accepted Jews fleeing from Nazi Germany as immigrants??
And the people living there never did a thing to the Jews. So why start a country THERE of all places? Tahiti was also a colony of the British. Why not establish a Jewish homeland in an island paradise? Why choose a dusty collection of old rocks? Because of religion obviously, and history. And if some Arabs happened to be in the way, oh well, collateral damage, nothing more.
I'm a Gnostic. What if we got together and re-took southern France? So what if a bunch of French Catholics are in the area? Big Deal. We'll just wall them all up somewhere and deny them basic human rights, and then react with dismay as they start throwing homemade bombs at us and begin and endless tit-for-tat war with them and the US government could fund it.
The point, which should be obvious, is this: if any other group was doing what the Israelis are doing, the planet and the US would be up in arms. But because of religion and a belief that some big mean guy in the sky gave a group of people exclusive rights to a chunk of land, they get it and get money that should be spend on the American people, many of whom, like myself, do not believe in that absurd story or believe that Jesus will come back and needs Israel to be there to serve as the octagon for his MMA title match against his evil twin.
If the Roma (gypsies) took a piece of their ancestral home in Pakistan: all hell would break loose
If the Pagans took back what is owed to them, like territory or even just the Pantheon in Rome: all hell would break loose
Hell, if a black nationalist army was to go to Liberia to retake, all hell would break lose, an international coalition would be sent to drone attack them, etc.
But Zionists take over Israel? "ahh...stand with Israel!"
Again, you are missing the whole point. "Palestine" was not a state like France. It was not belonging to Arabs, like France to the French. It was a fair game between the Jews and the Arabs. The Jews won.
Why not Tahiti? Really why not? Herzel, the founder of the Zionist movement thought about Uganda, but in the end decided towards "Palestine".
Again, you are talking about some "hell break loose", and we all saying the absolutely no one cares. Why you did not comprehend?
I'm against any type of theocracy and discrimination against nations... Israel is a Jewish state - should be secular! Jews have it easier to immigrate than non-Jews
What I mean by "that part of the world had nothing to do with it" is that the it in I am obviously referring to is the Holocaust. The Arabs didn't kill any Jews, that was the Germans. And so the Jews went and created a country in former Ottoman territory. Why not take a part of Germany, because it was the Germans who slaughtered them, not the Arabs who were pretty neutral through the whole thing.
Reason being it was religion. The Old Testament Devil God told them they could have that ugly strip of land so they took it, and the Arabs have a different version of the same Devil God telling them to defend it.
And your average British pagan has the same DNA as an ancient druid. So what would happen if they put a gun to every non-Pagan in Cornwall's head and said "leave!" ? Would the American government be okay with that?
If we didn't emigrate to Europe before WW2, why would we want to emigrate after it? Europe was a nice place to visit, a good place to get educated and a good place to do business. But we don't want to live there. Those of us from North Africa and the Middle East had nothing in common with the culture of Europeans. Even today, outside of Israel, we'd rather mix with Arabs than with Ashkenazi Jews. The only thing we have in common is being Jewish. Culturally we are not the same. Religiously we are similar but not the same. Their version of Hebrew gives us a headache.
As to Arabs, you know nothing about them. Before WW1 they were basically tribes who were always warring with each other to be top dog on the block. After WW1 and numerous British promises they were land grabbing everywhere in the Middle East. Britain gifted the land to the East of the TransJordan River to a Saudi Arabian family thus chopping it off from the Palestine Mandate and did the first eviction of Jews. Historically Britain was the problem in our regions and not Germany. Britain cut up the Middle East and Britain armed the Middle East. Britain did their very best back door deals for Israel not to exist. Arabs had 100's of years to kill off Jews, but they didn't. It wasn't until Europeans brought anti-Jewish sentiment into the regions that problems popped up.
Take the time and do some massive reading on the Middle East.
Doesn't matter how many Jews vs. Arabs got killed; it's 21st century not 1930s. So I guess Jews should kill 6 million Arabs to be satisfied and make it up
Where is "though shall not kill"?
How about you learn Aramaic and learn what the actual words are and what they mean within the context they were written in. This is not the Religion Forum but you are strongly attempting to make it a religious thread.
Jews do not murder Arabs. If there were any reality to that then last year there would have been 200,000 dead arabs in Gaza instead of 2000.
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