The Sabers Rattle, Will We Be Smart Enough To Just Say NO? (Obama, how much)

[Wanderer0101]

Originally Posted by burdell

Thank you for that, I wasn't aware and didn't get a hit about that high a level of participation in Vietnam nor do I know what regional politics may have encouraged them.

But Desert Storm? 5 C-130s and 1 Medical Unit? Hardly a show of force now is it? And if that level was maintained during Enduring Freedom I'd say it's hardly noteworthy from such a supposedly strong ally.

One is inevitably reminded of Gollum.

[burdell]

Originally Posted by Wanderer0101

One is inevitably reminded of Gollum.

Nah, I just get reminded of how many foreign policy blunders the US has made in the past and how many confirm Einstein's definition of insanity by wanting to continue down that very same path while expecting different results.

[Goodnight]

Forget about North Korea and their nuclear capability, Iran is our biggest threat because they might have nuclear capability in 15 years

[Grumpy ol' Man]

Everyone is saber rattling because the USA doesn't have a president. This will continue for 16 more months....

[burdell]

Originally Posted by RCCCB

Hope it doesn't go off, but by treaty with South Korea and other nations by treaty we could be obligated to protect.

I've never read a complete treaty and would no doubt need an interpreter to understand one but I've often wondered when people say we're obligated to protect one country or another about just how detailed treaties are about what 'protection' actually means?

And with S Korea's apparent baiting of N Korea, what then?

[Wanderer0101]

Originally Posted by burdell

I've never read a complete treaty and would no doubt need an interpreter to understand one but I've often wondered when people say we're obligated to protect one country or another about just how detailed treaties are about what 'protection' actually means?

And with S Korea's apparent baiting of N Korea, what then?

Baiting!! The North Koreans cross the border, blow up two South Koreans and the South Koreans respond with loud speakers and that's baiting? By what kind of twisted, liberal logic do you come up with that?

I guess they should have sent an abject letter of apology to the Great Leader because their inept personnel tripped over his mines and blew themselves up.

[burdell]

Originally Posted by Grumpy ol' Man

Everyone is saber rattling because the USA doesn't have a president. This will continue for 16 more months....

It existed a long time before 01/20/2009 and will continue to exist as long as there are countries that believe they can sucker another into fighting their battles for them.

[North Beach Person]

Originally Posted by burdell

Thank you for that, I wasn't aware and didn't get a hit about that high a level of participation in Vietnam nor do I know what regional politics may have encouraged them.

But Desert Storm? 5 C-130s and 1 Medical Unit? Hardly a show of force now is it? And if that level was maintained during Enduring Freedom I'd say it's hardly noteworthy from such a supposedly strong ally.

If you look, most of the allies for Desert Storm participated similar to the South Korean level. The reality is that the US, and a few other countries like the UK, are the only ones which can mount and deliver an overseas expeditionary force.

[burdell]

Originally Posted by Wanderer0101

Baiting!! The North Koreans cross the border, blow up two South Koreans and the South Koreans respond with loud speakers and that's baiting? By what kind of twisted, liberal logic do you come up with that?

So, when are you planning on shipping out? How many of your loved ones and how much of your paycheck are you willing to commit to this foolishness?

[burdell]

Originally Posted by North Beach Person

If you look, most of the allies for Desert Storm participated similar to the South Korean level. The reality is that the US, and a few other countries like the UK, are the only ones which can mount and deliver an overseas expeditionary force.

I know we can do it, the question is should we when it seems time after time we gain so little for such large investment?