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My home state is #2, huh? Well, its sure not happening around my area, which is the Reno/Sparks and Carson City areas. Shootings are pretty rare, and LOTS of people carry. That leaves Vegas. CCW regs are tighter, can't carry at all in N Vegas, which is the higher crime spot, and, oh yea, LOTS of illegals down there too. By itself, Vegas ranks us #2. Well, we Northerners have been trying to give Vegas to CA, for a long time. Wouldn't hurt our feelings, at all, if it went.
Crime stats has been debated on the TN forum quite a bit. They are extremely misleading. Even the FBI warns people the way they are calculated is misleading.
Just for thought how many illegals do you think truthfully fill out a census form if they do at all?
These are adjusted statistics that take into account things like poverty and crime.
Translation: We lower the bar for high crime areas and make it higher for low crime areas so we can skew the raw statistics and make it appear low crime areas have more gun violence.
FYI if they are using "homicides" those would include accidents, justified and police shootings.
a suicide is no different than a murder, both are still the death of a human being. however the title said gun violence, and the articles that people have linked to said violent crimes. not all violent crimes involve guns. but the statistics in the article are skewed because suicides are being added into crime statistics. if you want to show gun crimes, then show just gun crimes, not the total crimes.
Yep, we don't put bridge jumpers in the crime section.
The only thing I've agreed with is research, reported by Fox News, that suicides increase 3x when guns are in the home.
Accidental falls which is the number one killer in homes increases astronomically in two story homes. Who would have thought.
Is the statistic you are citing successful suicides or attempted suicides whether they were successful or not? Anyone using a gun is going to be more successful than other methods.
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On a side note Japan has almost double the suicide rate of the US and almost none of them involve a gun.
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Accidental falls which is the number one killer in homes increases astronomically in two story homes. Who would have thought.
Is the statistic you are citing successful suicides or attempted suicides whether they were successful or not? Anyone using a gun is going to be more successful than other methods.
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On a side note Japan has almost double the suicide rate of the US and almost none of them involve a gun.
Yes, Japan has a deep cultural tradition of suicide. It's not comparable.
I don't get the resistance to acknowledging: gun ownership is a right but comes with a known risk to oneself and family that other households do not have. Proceed with caution.
The only thing I've agreed with is research, reported by Fox News, that suicides increase 3x when guns are in the home.
That is an act of violence that should not be ignored just because it's not some thug shooting up a movie theater.
An act of violence? To who? Yourself? Knock it off. Worry about the thugs shooting up the streets every damn day in the ghettos before you worry about any of that other inane crap. If it wasn't for ghetto shootings violent gun crimes would be extremely low.
What else would you expect from huffington? Couldnt find a more biased source? Huff has no integrity, there is no reason to believe this story at all.
Lies, damn lies and statistics. is it any wonder your liberal urban cesspols are where most violence (and corruption) comes from when you wont admit facts?
Um, they used suicide padded stats to try to create a lie.
Weren't you just complaining about news outlets that constantly lie and try to brainwash people?
I respect that people have varying opinions on subjects but when they start intentionally misusing stats to try to lie to people then the gloves come off.
So, you have to ask yourself where you stand. Is it ok to do this as long as it supports your views or should people honestly present facts?
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