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Old 09-19-2014, 10:37 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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I've always like to think I'm an optimist, but I look around and see that about 1 in every 2 births in the US is paid for by Medicaid. Our education system has been on a 25 year slide and the 'greatest country in the history of the world' is no longer even in the top 20.

We're constantly involved in overseas wars, but we can't guard our own borders. A Texas county is squeezed financially due to the cost of processing dead immigrant bodies. It had to strip health benefits from deputies to make ends meet.

In 1960 Detroit was the richest city in the world. Now it is bankrupt, and its public school system features a graduation rate of less than one in three. Now the DC region is the richest region in the US. They do not manufacture much of anything, but they are very good at sucking dollars from those who do.

The American revolution was over and done with in about six or seven years. We won WWII in about 6 years. We have been in and out of Iraq, a backward country of about 33 million population, since 1990 (24 years) and it is currently largely controlled by what George Washington would have called 'Mahomedans.'

Maybe we can bounce back. I see a wealth of young conservative talent such as Jindal, Cruz, Rubio, Mike Lee, Rand Paul, Susana Martinez....list goes on. These are all good individuals, but the system is broken. The big picture is not looking good.

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Old 09-19-2014, 10:40 PM
 
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Yes. I forget who said it, but someone wrote an article that said as soon as the out of wedlock birth rate hit 50%, the US was done and on it's way to becoming a third world country. I fully believe that.

Half the country is on food stamps, nobody has any retirement savings, we're becoming a nation of part time, low-wage workers etc. Either we're going to totally collapse or we'll be like many South American nations where you're either super wealthy or dirt poor. There will be no middle class.
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Old 09-19-2014, 10:51 PM
 
Location: Maryland about 20 miles NW of DC
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I've always like to think I'm an optimist, but I look around and see that about 1 in every 2 births in the US is paid for by Medicaid. Our education system has been on a 25 year slide and the 'greatest country in the history of the world' is no longer even in the top 20.

We're constantly involved in overseas wars, but we can't guard our own borders. A Texas county is squeezed financially due to the cost of processing dead immigrant bodies. It had to strip health benefits from deputies to make ends meet.

In 1960 Detroit was the richest city in the world. Now it is bankrupt, and its public school system features a graduation rate of less than one in three. Now the DC region is the richest region in the US. They do not manufacture much of anything, but they are very good at sucking dollars from those who do.

The American revolution was over and done with in about six or seven years. We won WWII in about 6 years. We have been in an out of Iraq, a backward country of about 33 million population, since 1990 (24 years) and it is currently largely controlled by what George Washington would have called 'Mahomedans.'

Maybe we can bounce back. I see a wealth of young conservative talent such as Jindal, Cruz, Rubio, Mike Lee, Rand Paul, Susana Martinez....list goes on. These are all good individuals, but the system is broken. The big picture is not looking good.

I guess being a good individual requires being grossly ignorant of your fellow man and the world at large, being able to lie with the best of em, Lacking even a shred of empathy and being self absorbed. Being able to ignore anything you want to even if it is about to bite you in the ass. None of em have a snowballs chance in hell of making this nation a better place.
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Old 09-19-2014, 11:01 PM
 
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Yep, too many Greedy Ayn Rand type people that only think of themselves over the best interest of the country. You want to know where the everyone is a winner and needs a trophy line mentality originated from? From Aynd Rand type thinking where it is all about ME and not the country, state or city.

The Any Rand Slogan was all about the One


And turned the ability for the average American to have a say in community, state and federal power as "Socialism" and vied for power to boot them out.


Corporate lobbyists pile into politicians offices for blowjobs but for everyone else, you are on your own.
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Old 09-19-2014, 11:01 PM
 
Location: Oceania
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Yep, we even have have Muslims swooping in to enslave us - Moor style.

Actually, we are in worse shape as we are larger and will fall harder.
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Old 09-19-2014, 11:02 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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I've been to Rome before, it's a beautiful city. If we are going the way of Rome then I'd be ok with that
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Old 09-19-2014, 11:03 PM
 
Location: Stasis
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Rome's downfall was their 1% controlled most of the land and wealth and paid no taxes. The self serving fat cats destroyed the economy, increased their land holdings forcing peasants to the cities (the Roman mob), and when the barbarians were at the gate the masses had no loyalty to the government or incentive to protect the state. The Roman's trickle down economy and tax breaks for the rich contributed to their demise.
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Old 09-19-2014, 11:07 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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I've been to Rome before, it's a beautiful city. If we are going the way of Rome then I'd be ok with that
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Old 09-19-2014, 11:11 PM
 
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As a Tea Partier you probably know that VA spending will go to $164 billion next year for 12 million or so vet collecting benefits. The average compensation for a service person is $92,000 or more than double what civilians make. The whole VA-Defense budget is $820 billion. Do you ever wonder as a Tea Partier who is paying the tab or do you think it grows on trees?
The Tea Party has a plan and thats to bankrupt this country with Defense spending...then what.
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Old 09-19-2014, 11:15 PM
 
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Yep, too many Greedy Ayn Rand type people that only think of themselves over the best interest of the country. You want to know where the everyone is a winner and needs a trophy line mentality originated from? From Aynd Rand type thinking where it is all about ME and not the country, state or city.

The Any Rand Slogan was all about the One


And turned the ability for the average American to have a say in community, state and federal power as "Socialism" and vied for power to boot them out.


Corporate lobbyists pile into politicians offices for blowjobs but for everyone else, you are on your own.
Ayn Rand collected SS and on top of that like the typical Tea Partier she took out many times more out of Medicare than she contributed. She was the inspiration for the modern day Tea Partier...taking out more than you contributed.
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