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View Poll Results: U.S. Constitution
Love it 72 81.82%
Hate it 4 4.55%
Like some of it, hate some of it 12 13.64%
Voters: 88. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-21-2014, 06:48 AM
 
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Congress has the right to initiate an amendment to correct what it perceives as an incorrect Supreme Court interpretation. The fact that it happens rarely seems to demonstrate to correctness of Marbury.
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Old 08-21-2014, 06:50 AM
 
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The interpretation of the Constitution is a matter that is the province of the judicial power - it is implicit in its provisions. Marbury v. Madison, 5 U.S. 137 (1803).
I understand where the SCOTUS gave themselves a power that was never enumerated or even envisioned. In fact, them giving themselves power was something Hamilton warned about very directly and specifically in the Federalist Papers, which was rejoined by Brutus in the Antifederalist Papers.
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Old 08-21-2014, 06:54 AM
 
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Again, the interpretation of the Constitution is implicit in the grant of the judicial power. To say that the Constitution means what it says only begs the question of its interpretation. To put it simply: The Constitution says what the Supreme Court says it says. Get used to it.
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Old 08-21-2014, 06:56 AM
 
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Again, the interpretation of the Constitution is implicit in the grant of the judicial power. To say that the Constitution means what it says only begs the question of its interpretation. To put it simply: The Constitution says what the Supreme Court says it says. Get used to it.
Everyone interprets the Constitution. Those who claim the court shouldn't just don't like its decisions.
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Old 08-21-2014, 06:59 AM
 
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Again, the interpretation of the Constitution is implicit in the grant of the judicial power. To say that the Constitution means what it says only begs the question of its interpretation. To put it simply: The Constitution says what the Supreme Court says it says. Get used to it.
We'll never agree, but your viewpoint is more popular than mine in the Brave New World we call the modern US. People don't mind tyranny anymore because they're comfortable and distracted.

But you defend your master well, I'll give you that.
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Old 08-21-2014, 07:01 AM
 
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The Constitution says what the Supreme Court says it says. Get used to it.
Nope. Never.
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Old 08-21-2014, 07:01 AM
 
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Every time the federal courts come out with a decision that is contrary to popular sentiment, there is a great outcry about "liberal judges," "conservative judges," "activist judges" - not to mention a general call to "reform" the courts, or do away with them altogether. Such criticisms are hardly justified. Indeed, it would be difficult to find a more staid group than those that make up the federal judiciary. (One does not get ahead by espousing radical ideas, one way or the other, about the law: witness the failed confirmation of the appointment of Judge Robert Bork to the Supreme Court.)

Given the role of the Supreme Court (and lower federal courts) in the system of checks and balances provided in the Constitution, an independent judiciary is essential, for it acts as a curb against the encroachment of government on individual rights and liberty. Under the constitutional provision for separation of powers, federal judges are not supposed to be subject to political influence in fulfilling the court's role. A federal judge, who serves with life tenure on good behavior, can wield great power; which is why it is important to appoint "qualified" persons and not just political ideologues to the federal bench. That is why federal judges are appointed by the President subject to confirmation by the Senate and not elected.

Our courts are the great levelers, for all men stand equal before the law. But while we are a nation of laws and not men, it is men who administer the laws and mete out justice. Most state judges are elected officials, and others appointed by executive authority; and there are few whose judgments are not influenced by politics, whether it be associated with getting reelected or avoiding impeachment from office. To make federal judges accountable in this way would turn the judiciary into courts of popular appeal, which is not what the framers of the Constitution had in mind.
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Old 08-21-2014, 07:02 AM
 
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Given the role of the Supreme Court (and lower federal courts) in the system of checks and balances provided in the Constitution, an independent judiciary is essential, for it acts as a curb against the encroachment of government on individual rights and liberty.
Kelo v New London disagrees with your analysis.
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Old 08-21-2014, 07:08 AM
 
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I love the US Constitution. I just wish members of our three branches of government would obey the restrictions placed upon them by the constitution.
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Old 08-21-2014, 07:12 AM
 
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Kelo v New London disagrees with your analysis.
And yet you probably endorse the use of eminent domain by the Keystone Pipeline.
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