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View Poll Results: Should we end Birthright citizenship for the children of Illegal Immigrates?
Yes 67 84.81%
No 11 13.92%
Other, Explain 0 0%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 79. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-06-2014, 06:45 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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Is the father a citizen?
Yes (I guess you are implying a U.S. citizen). Does that matter? As I said, I (a U.S. citizen from birth, and the sponsor for my stepdaughter) had my health insurance to pay for a vast majority of the cost. The remainder was paid by my stepdaughter.

My U.S. citizen Granddaughter is cute as a button, and sharp as a whip. She doesn't gain her citizenship from either parent, she was born on U.S. soil. What is your point in asking about her father?

 
Old 06-06-2014, 06:48 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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Once again if it was the former instead of the latter, how would it be that much of a issue, are you telling us a majoirty of the anchor babies as a parent that is legal?

That they have such great time to be in America at "coincidentally" the right time to give birth in America?
I'm not quite sure what you are saying, can you please be more concise?...
 
Old 06-06-2014, 06:58 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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Yes (I guess you are implying a U.S. citizen). Does that matter? As I said, I (a U.S. citizen from birth, and the sponsor for my stepdaughter) had my health insurance to pay for a vast majority of the cost. The remainder was paid by my stepdaughter.

My U.S. citizen Granddaughter is cute as a button, and sharp as a whip. She doesn't gain her citizenship from either parent, she was born on U.S. soil. What is your point in asking about her father?
Anecdotal evidence.
 
Old 06-06-2014, 07:05 PM
 
Location: Pa
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Originally Posted by bluesjuke View Post
Is the father a citizen?
As the law stands as interpreted by SCOTUS the child is a US citizen regardless of who her parents are or from where they are from. Agree or disagree SCOTUS has spoken.
I agree with many that the 14th is being abused and I believe that a change is in order. Until that time it is what it is.
In this case 1 parent is a US national. The child is American.
 
Old 06-06-2014, 07:08 PM
 
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No other civilized, developed nation allows automatic citizenship when a non-citizen gives birth within their borders.

There is a reason for that and America has noticed for the last 15+ years: Illegal immigrants flood in taking every benefit, abusing every loophole, making up fictitious children for tax refunds, over-indulging in visits to hospitals, food banks, taking up public housing, and on and on. And for what, low-skilled employees who send their money back home but not improving their own nation or creating prosperity back there, thereby creating a future influx of immigrants looking for money and nothing but and knowing America gives it away for the sake of having a child there.

It is surreal how insane America is on their illegal immigrant situation.
It's perfectly sane. If you're a politician and a certain voting bloc votes for you in overwhelming numbers it is perfectly understandable that you want to maximize that bloc. It's just common sense. The children of illegal aliens grow up to be eligible Democrat voters.
 
Old 06-06-2014, 07:11 PM
 
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Yep, more poor, and more Democrats. Dinesh D'Souza warned about the Obama and the borders in his movie.
 
Old 06-06-2014, 07:12 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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...In this case 1 parent is a US national. The child is American.
In this "case", the father (of an illegitimate daughter) is a U.S. citizen (also implying he has U.S. nationality). She's a U.S. citizen. As said, she derives citizenship from neither parent, she was born on U.S. soil.
 
Old 06-06-2014, 07:18 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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Anecdotal evidence.
That she is cute and smart? Yes, I have a bias. But the part about not gaining derivative citizenship from the status of her parents is true for almost virtually every native-born U.S. citizen.
 
Old 06-06-2014, 07:22 PM
 
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Once again if it was the former instead of the latter, how would it be that much of a issue, are you telling us a majoirty of the anchor babies as a parent that is legal?

That they have such great time to be in America at "coincidentally" the right time to give birth in America?
They don't even have to give birth here now in order to stay and collect the food stamps and have the taxpayers paying for them. Because of DACA and all the promises of amnesty, THOUSANDS of women -- many of them pregnant and infants and children are crossing the border illegally, they immediately turn themselves in because Obama has halted all deportations, they know they'll be taken to a center and given food and put on government handouts and the border agents now much help them contact friends and relatives if they have any here.

The border is completely out of control. It's beyond absurd now. Obama is doing this why?
 
Old 06-06-2014, 07:32 PM
 
Location: Pa
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In this "case", the father (of an illegitimate daughter) is a U.S. citizen (also implying he has U.S. nationality). She's a U.S. citizen. As said, she derives citizenship from neither parent, she was born on U.S. soil.
As the law stands as interpreted by SCOTUS the child is a US citizen regardless of who her parents are or from where they are from. Agree or disagree SCOTUS has spoken.
I agree with many that the 14th is being abused and I believe that a change is in order. Until that time it is what it is.
In this case 1 parent is a US national. The child is American.

My complete post. I stated nothing otherwise. Note As the law stands as interpreted By SCOTUS the child is a US citizen....
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