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The only polls that count were the ones taken in November of 2008 and 2012.
You only have that simpleton opinion, because you support Obama.
Why aren't you telling the Obama supporters on here that the last poll of any value on Bush was 2004?
I can just see the 1974 version of nvxplorer: "hey you guys polling on Nixon after watergate, the only poll that matters was the 1972 election and he won 49 of 50 states!"
You actually helped prove his point, the Person he responded to claimed President Bush left office with a 49% approval rating. Did you just skip that part ????
The Part about Fox News being on Par with other polls is untrue. FOX has the Presidents approval rating at 40 in the current poll, no one else has him lower than 43.
If you could read more carefully, you would see that:
#1 I agree with the fact that Bush had low approval numbers in his final polls as president.
#2 I disagree with the notion that you can dismiss a poll, based on FoxNews paying 2 well respected firms to do it.
I thought it was obvious that I was showing him that he uses (and therefore puts value in) Gallup, while at the same time dismissing FoxNews paid for polls. Yet, FoxNews polls have been MORE ACCURATE in recent elections than his poll, Gallup. AND had the same final approval rating for Bush as Gallup - that he was trumpeting around at the same time as making ignorant comments that FoxNews gave Bush a higher final approval rating, when factually it was the EXACT same as his source.
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The FoxNews Poll's margin of error puts it within the RCP average and therefore currently is not an outlier as you say - it falls within the range by definition.
And Reuters has Obama at 38%...so you are flat out wrong that FoxNews has the worst poll on him.
Polls on Obama
Reuters -18
Fox -14
AP -13
CNN -12
ABC -8
Gallup -8
CBS -5
Rasmussen +6 (Remember Obamabots use to dismiss Rasmussen for being slanted GOP in a paranoia fashion?)
Fox's last poll had Obama at -5%
Fox News is right in the mix within the margin of error of the average month after month throughout Obama's 5+ years. Sometimes giving Obama the best polls at the moment. The facts show that your post is total liberal nonsense. Your entire post is filled with misconceptions and factual inaccuracies.
If you could read more carefully, you would see that:
#1 I agree with the fact that Bush had low approval numbers in his final polls as president.
If you took the time to actually read what you responded to you would see that.
1. I never said you disagree, I said you skipped over the part where he was responding to someone who claimed Bush left with a 49% approval rating.
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#2 I disagree with the notion that you can dismiss a poll, based on FoxNews paying 2 well respected firms to do it.
You can dismiss a poll if it is an outlier.
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The FoxNews Poll's margin of error puts it within the RCP average and therefore currently is not an outlier as you say - it falls within the range by definition.
The definition of Outlier is a person or thing situated away or detached from the main body or system.. Being with in the margin of error does not dismiss the argument that it is an outlier.
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And Reuters has Obama at 38%...so you are flat out wrong that FoxNews has the worst poll on him.
Never claimed they had the worst poll, just that they are an outlier, and you do realize you can have more than one right ?????
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Polls on Obama
Reuters -18
Fox -14
AP -13
CNN -12
ABC -8
Gallup -8
CBS -5
Rasmussen +6 (Remember Obamabots use to dismiss Rasmussen for being slanted GOP in a paranoia fashion?)
Rassmussen was very wrong in polling in the last election cycle and it seems they have over corrected, we can agree there.
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Fox's last poll had Obama at -5%
FOx's poll jumped 11 points in one swing and you dont think this poll is an outlier ??????
Gee, a Faux Entertainment Channel poll. Who here is surprised at the result?
The article says at the bottom "The poll was conducted June 1-3 by the Democratic Anderson Robbins Research and the Republican Shaw & Company Research."
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Originally Posted by nealrm
The blame Fox news mantra. Liberals use it to ward off any criticism, facts, legitimate observations, valid questions, evil spirits, bogeymen and real thought processes.
The article says at the bottom "The poll was conducted June 1-3 by the Democratic Anderson Robbins Research and the Republican Shaw & Company Research."
Marketing firms/market research firms can and do conduct surveys. I worked at one for several years.
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