A German Lesson For Improving U.S Manufacturing

[J746NEW]

Originally Posted by LibertyandJusticeforAll

Really not enough Americans qualified hmmm or they cost to much.
They are qualified and we have plenty here this is nothing more then propaganda for more hb-1 visas.

They cost to much. The proper market response is to up the wages until you attract potential candidates but like every thing else, screw the country.

If I can't work within the Nationalist Market Economy, I'll just import workers here, or export the work to some Commie or Third World Country. As long as I don't have to pay for it, its ok.

[florian73]

@Katiana

I'm not going to waste ten minutes of my life watching that video, but I'd bet you dollars to doughnuts it doesn't tell the whole German story, e.g. kids being selected at age 10 for the careers they'll do the rest of their lives.

That's nonsense, e.g. after elementary school (1-4 grade) I visited "Hauptschule" (5-10 grade) and get my "Mittlere Reife mit Qualifikation" comparable to a high school diploma in the U.S. than I visited a "Gymnasium" (11-13 grade) and I get my "Abitur" and than I studied at a university. Leftist, supporter of a socialistic comprehensive school system often state the nonsense that the careers of students are predestined at age 10.

@Motion

Can you provide a link that elaborates on 10 year olds being stuck in jobs for the rest of their lives in Germany? Are you confusing modern day Germany with the old East Germany?

Katiana only regurgitate nonsense from leftist fools.


@Katiana

How To Germany - German School System
This link gives a good overview. It seems the parents now get some say, but the tracking starts in 5th grade.

There are a lot of errors and inaccuracies in this summary. For example if the student complete the "Hauptschule" with the "Mittlere Reife" than he can change to a "Gymnasium" and can achieve the "Abitur". It isn't mandatory to go to vocational training after "Hauptschule". You can visit an other school to get the "Abitur". You only need suitable academic achievements.

In 10 states the parents decide which secondary school their kids attend. In 6 states the teachers decide about that issue. But with suitable academic achievements the students can change to a higher type of school. Or you attend "Hauptschule", than complete the vocational training, after that it's very easy to get the permission to go to college.

Please don't state that german kids at age 10 are final selected for the careers they'll do the rest of their lives. That's idiocy.

[florian73]

@texdav

Thep roblem with that is manufacturing as a business is really starting to change. Many newer technic are coming into play which will eliminate many jobs of humans and some are already. For example more and more welding by humans isn't needed. Machining by humans isn't and the newest is actually printing parts as they have even worked on printing in metals. All in all its why servicing anything thing is the growth areas. Bascially we need less and less humans to build and service anything going forward.if you look in the 20th century many unions fought this technology of automation which slowed it but those days are long gone. Now that other countries have moved on from destruction of WWII.

What are you talking about? Countries with a more automatized manufacturing sector has normally more employees in this industry than countries with a less automatized manufacturing. E.g. there are about 12 mio employees in the U.S. manufacturing sector compare to 7.3 mio employees in the german manufacturing sector. But there are more industrial robots in Germany than in the U.S. Per employees there are about twice as many robots than in the U.S. Or look at the manufacturing sector in the UK, The german manufacturing sector has more than 3 times the numbers of employees than british manufacturing. But there are 12 times more industrial robots in Germany than in the UK.

You need a better skilled workforce to control a more sophisticated production machine than is needed in a more traditional production process. If your assumptions were correct and if the manufacturing sector in the U.S. catch up in the level of automation to other more advanced countries, than the rate of employees in the U.S. manufacturing sector declines even further.

There are some similarities between the manufacturing sector in the UK and that in the U.S. Both countries have a relative small manufacturing sector, relative low wages and a relative low level of technical equipment in the manufacturing industry. There is a huge gap between the salaries in higher service industries and the salaries in the manufacturing industry. That leads to a relative poorly skilled workforce in the manufacturing sector.

What are you talking about the destruction of WW2? Do you mean that countries like Germany has recently overcome the destruction of WW2 and are now getting a more automatized manufacturing sector and that will leads to a reduction in manufacturing employees, similiar to the U.S.? It looks that you don't understand that it is the U.S. manufacturing, that lags behind when it comes to technological achievements in the production process.